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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 27 November 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Fulton MacGregor

Good morning, minister. As others have noted, you have said that you agree with the principle in the bill of criminalising the buying of sex and that you do not agree with the quashing of offences, which are two of the main aspects of the bill. The bill partly meets the Government’s position, but you have concerns, which you have outlined. My question is quite a general one. How do we square that circle, and is there anything that the committee can do to help?

What I am trying to ask, if I can be blunt, is whether you and the Government are open to suggestions that the committee will come up with in the stage 1 report on a cross-party basis. I emphasise that it would be on a cross-party basis, because I feel that this is very much a non-party-political issue. Is that something that the Government is open to?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Fulton MacGregor

Before I ask a question about fatal accident inquiries, I will ask about the social care aspect, which you have spoken about and which I am really interested in. That is changing the whole shape of prison care. Do you have any idea what share of the costs of social care is being incurred by the Scottish Prison Service and how much is falling on the NHS? Is there any overlap? If so, can anything be done in that regard?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Fulton MacGregor

I have one final question. I appreciate that the question is as much for the member in charge of the bill as it is for you. In fairness, I will ask it to the member in charge next week, if somebody else does not do so beforehand. What discussions have the Government and the member in charge had as the bill has progressed or in its earlier stages? Have there been any discussions at that level to try to square the circle, as I mentioned earlier?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Fulton MacGregor

Thank you, minister; that is reassuring. One of the concerns that I have is that we continue to go back over this area again and again. We have heard from those with lived experience on both sides of the argument that they are tired of having to continually come in, speak to politicians and defend their position one way or the other, whether they want to continue to have the right to sex work or whether they are against it and they want to see the bill passed. I am therefore concerned that a new approach might feel like starting again.

It is probably too early to ask, because we are at stage 1 and you have a neutral position, but how confident are you that the Government could take this forward—in other words, safely criminalise the buying of sex without continually having to revisit the issue—in a new parliamentary session? Has that crossed your mind?

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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Fulton MacGregor

I move on to my more substantive question. In your submission, you said that a resource increase is needed to meet

“Additional costs to support the implementation of the FAI Taskforce recommendations.”

Could you set out what that resource requirement is and what it covers, and the implications with regard to deaths in custody if you do not have the budget to implement those recommendations?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Fulton MacGregor

Could you provide the committee with those costs in writing?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Fulton MacGregor

I should declare an interest in that my wife works at the state hospital, which is a high-security facility as well as a health-based one. Could other aspects of prisoner care move to that basis? That question is more about policy than about the budget, but how could such a move impact prison budgets?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Ddraft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Fulton MacGregor

They have been covered, convener, but I feel that I should probably come in here, too.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Ddraft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Fulton MacGregor

There has been a reasonable discussion on this matter already, so I do not need to give a preamble to my question. I want to ask the witnesses—and I will revert back to you to chair this discussion, convener, as I am obviously not in the room, which makes things a wee bit awkward with a round-table format—whether they have any further thoughts on the direct role of local government in delivering the draft climate change plan. More broadly, how do the capacity and resources of local government, which have obviously been well documented both in this committee and other forums, link with its ability to deliver that plan? I know that most of the witnesses have touched on that a wee bit in their previous answers, but if anybody wanted to make a direct response, convener, I would appreciate it.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Fulton MacGregor

The question might be answered briefly, given the convener’s comment on time. Last year, before the committee, both organisations set out the importance of multiyear funding allocations. Has there been any progress on that matter? Have there been any discussions with the Scottish Government or any other body about moving that forward? I remember both your organisations stressing last year that it would be important.