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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 31 March 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Council Tax

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Fulton MacGregor

Cabinet secretary, are there any lessons to be learned for any council tax proposals from the processes around how the Scottish Government has developed and implemented reforms in other areas of taxation, such as non-domestic rates, land and buildings transaction tax and income tax?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Fulton MacGregor

I asked whether there had been any discussions within the Government about a review, given the other changes. It is clear from your answer that you decided early on that you did not want to do that and that you wanted to take more direct action, which I appreciate, but was there any discussion about how the changes might be reviewed in the future? Given the changes to corroboration and the likely change to the not proven verdict, was there any discussion about how we—both the Government and the Parliament—might review the legislation?

We are obviously all hoping that the sky will not fall down, and we all think that it will not happen. However, given the range of views that we are hearing, what thought has been given to how we might look at reviewing the legislation if it does not bring about the results that we are hoping for?

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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Fulton MacGregor

Good morning. My questions were about part 4 as well, but Liam Kerr and the convener have covered many of my points, and you have already given quite a good overview, cabinet secretary. I understand that the purpose of this meeting is to explore some of the amendments, so I will not ask questions just for the sake of it.

However, I would like to ask whether any thought was given to having a trial period—I may be using the wrong phrase—because it is likely that we will agree to the removal of the not proven verdict, which will be a massive change. Further, during the scrutiny of the bill, the changes to corroboration also came in, as you have already said.

Given that those are massive changes and that we are getting different views from different people about the changes to jury size and majorities, when you were drafting the amendments, was any consideration given to having some sort of trial period to see how the new changes bed in, or having what I suppose you could call a sunset clause for the new changes?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Fulton MacGregor

Thank you.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Council Tax

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Fulton MacGregor

Good morning. As the convener said, I will ask a few questions on collaboration, consultation and communication, although I appreciate that some aspects of that have been covered in the answers that you have already given, and I apologise for that.

I turn first to our witnesses who are online. A majority of respondents to the Welsh Government’s 2022 consultation said that they did not want there to be a revaluation in 2025, but the Welsh Government is progressing with a revaluation, which will be carried out in 2028. In the face of the concerns that existed, how did the Welsh Government build a political consensus? Is this a case in which political consensus is more important than what the public think?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Council Tax

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Fulton MacGregor

Thanks for that—

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Council Tax

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Fulton MacGregor

Oh. I am sorry, Matthew.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Council Tax

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Fulton MacGregor

I could not agree more.

I have one final question, which is probably for you, Paul. Last week, we heard that revaluation would be a vital first step before any further reforms. What other reforms would IRRV Scotland like to see?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Council Tax

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Fulton MacGregor

Thanks. You have gone on to what I was going to ask about next. Last week, witnesses raised some concerns about misunderstandings around a likely revaluation. We have heard from Welsh colleagues today that that can lead to negativity in consultations, because people automatically think that a revaluation means that their council tax will go up, so they feel that it is better to say that it should be left as it is.

What role should the Scottish Government and councils have in ensuring that the public are properly informed about possible changes? Can you think of any practical examples of what Government and councils can do to engage people and tell them what they are trying to do?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Council Tax

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Fulton MacGregor

Turning to our Scottish colleagues, based on what Lisa Hayward has said, is there anything that a future Scottish Government could learn from that about any consultation on council tax? Given the results of the consultation in Wales and the strength of political opinion on reforming the current council tax situation, which I think is shared round this table and the Parliament, is there anything that we could learn from Wales?