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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 April 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Mairi Gougeon

I would have to ask officials whether they have looked at that in detail. Again, I do not have that information to hand.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Mairi Gougeon

Absolutely. It is particularly because there is a lot going on in that space that we are very much being guided by stakeholders as to how to form and develop the process. We heard clearly that stakeholders would find it most helpful and engaging if we implemented the step of having a call for evidence before formally consulting on measures. We are working closely with them because we recognise that a lot is happening in that space at the moment and we want to take them with us.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Mairi Gougeon

We felt that we had grounds to appeal that decision. That is ultimately why we did so. I appreciate that proceeding in such a way uses more resource, but we believed that we had grounds for appeal.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Mairi Gougeon

I do not understand—is there a particular issue that you are talking about?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Mairi Gougeon

I am sorry—I do not know what you mean. Do you mean the payment strategy that we publish?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Mairi Gougeon

It largely sets out the targets by when we intend to make payments and when we expect all those payments to be completed. We have been adhering to that.

I am sorry—I am not quite clear what the issue is.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Mairi Gougeon

Again, I do not want us to confuse a variety of issues here. We have some demand-led schemes; as George Burgess has just been talking about, the national test programme and preparing for sustainable farming scheme is one such scheme. Yes, uptake was low when it started, but it has been building gradually. Of course, we have to budget what we think we are going to use for that year. Again, it depends on the various different schemes that we have, and the payment strategy is separate to all of that.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Mairi Gougeon

There are a few points for us to clarify. In relation to the budget that is set out, the initial recommendations of the Bew review were never meant to be a long-term solution. In the first year of savings that are set out, all of that is from ring-fenced funding.

We got confirmation that the first allocation from the Bew review, which is highlighted as a specific budget line in that financial year’s budget, was coming too late in the year for it to be spent, which is why it then had to be offered up as a saving, as is highlighted in the table. As we set out in the letter, the Bew line was not separated out in other financial years, because it just became part of the baseline that we received from the UK Government budget.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Mairi Gougeon

That is the thing. Of course, we want our ambitions to be funded. We think that we can deliver so much more. We need to deliver in the areas of agricultural transformation, which includes supporting food production, lowering our emissions and enhancing nature and biodiversity. We have capabilities in peatland restoration and forestry, which will not only help to meet Scotland’s emissions targets but, more broadly, help the UK. If you look at all that, I think that we should have and are right to expect a higher proportion of the budget for those areas. That will be critical going forward.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Mairi Gougeon

The overall quantum that we receive in the ring-fenced funding is not the only spending that we make in the rural economy—you can see that from the published budget. The budget for the portfolio is approximately £1.1 billion. The figures that we have in the letter, such as the £620 million, represent a ring-fenced element, but we have other funding above and beyond the ring fencing that is all for the rural economy and for the other priorities across the portfolio.