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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 April 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Mairi Gougeon

I do not know whether Nuala Gormley can add further information on that or whether we are aware of any particular areas where the situation is inhibiting work.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Mairi Gougeon

I have talked about some of the income that has been generated, and I think that about £3.5 million of the income of £9 million has come from other scientific work. However, a full analysis of that would have to be undertaken. Rebecca Hackett has outlined the restructure that took place last year, and we need to consider how that is operating. However, with regard to how the department operates, that is largely operational and it is for the marine directorate to look at where the resources are and how they are aligned. There is no question about the independence of our scientists and the work that they undertake. What is important for me is that we see the outcomes and where that work is beneficial for Scotland.

We have talked at length today about the engagement and involvement with ICES across all the stock assessments and the areas that are most valuable for us in the work that is undertaken. What is important for me is that work and the fact that we see benefit from it.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Mairi Gougeon

Again, you can take a narrow view and look at the overall publications, but we need to look at the picture more widely. The number of publications is being used as a measure of how the directorate is performing, which is not a fair assessment. That is particularly the case given what Nuala Gormley said about our increased involvement in ICES and the expertise that is being utilised in that regard. We need to consider this in the round.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Mairi Gougeon

Absolutely—especially the openness to collaboration. That is definitely an area where we can look to strengthen such relationships and collaborate more closely. We would absolutely look to do that.

Again, it comes back to implementation—how we are delivering on what we have set out in the science and innovation strategy to make sure that we maximise our resources in the best way that we can and utilise the expertise that exists elsewhere.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Mairi Gougeon

The age of the vessels.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Mairi Gougeon

I think that Nuala Gormley has information on the age of all our vessels. We have two that are probably approaching their end-of-service-life age. The two vessels in that category are the marine research vessel Scotia, which is 26 years old, and the Minna, a marine protection vessel, which is 21 years old.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Mairi Gougeon

I do not have the age of the aircraft, and I do not know whether Nuala has that information.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Mairi Gougeon

It goes into the consolidated fund.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Mairi Gougeon

You raise a lot of really interesting points that chime with a lot of the work that is on-going at the moment. Of course, IFCAs are a separate model with a completely different set-up, but we have been in a process of change over the past few years in relation to putting FMAC on a more structured footing than it was previously and in relation to the regional inshore fisheries groups. I have been involved in a number of different meetings with stakeholders over the past few weeks and I have heard people’s different frustrations.

We have been undertaking a review of FMAC to determine how it has been working and how different stakeholders are finding the operation of that format. We are also looking at regional inshore fisheries groups and how they have been operating. The feedback that we get as a result of that will then help us to determine a way forward.

In a previous response, I touched on the overall route map to change for inshore fisheries that we are embarking on. The interim measures were one of the steps in that regard. We also heard quite clearly from stakeholders that they want to be involved in that change. We intend to issue a call for evidence, potentially towards the end of this year, to seek views on future models and on how we can best maximise that engagement. I would be happy to keep the committee updated on that work as we progress with it.

We also have a couple of on-going inshore fisheries pilots that have been working really well. It is really important that we take the learning from those to help to inform the process that we are going through. I recognise the points that you have made, and we are keen to see that more regional approach to management.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Mairi Gougeon

There is one on Mull at the moment, but I would have to find details of the others. I am happy to provide more information if that is helpful, because I do not have it to hand.