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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 April 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

It will be a challenge for the industry to adjust to that new standard, so, ultimately, the period enables that to happen.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

We have to strike a balance between the reductions that some would expect to see and the fish health element. We have to make sure that the previous standard is phased out in a realistic way that will not adversely impact fish health—while, of course, recognising the time needed to adjust. That is how the timescale was developed.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

We talked about the industry as a whole at the start of the session and went into great detail about the work that goes into an application, the licences that have to be received and the amount of modelling work that is undertaken to ensure that fish farms are operating within environmental limits. The fact that they have been granted their licence to operate means that they are very much operating on that basis.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

Jill Barber will correct me if I am wrong, but I think that things have remained relatively consistent when we look at the overall mortality rates in the surveys that we have produced and at the survival targets over the past 20 years. I do not think that that detracts from the fact that we all want to tackle the serious issue of mortality as best we possibly can. As I have stated throughout my appearance before the committee this morning, it is not in anybody’s interests to see such high mortality levels.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

I think that we are quite honest and transparent about where we are at, but I would disagree on some aspects. I think that we have to be optimistic about our ability to address these challenges. Equally, I do not think that we can be complacent and say that a 25 per cent rate of mortality is good, because it is not—we would want to see improvements in that respect. Industry would certainly want to see that situation improve—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

There are two separate issues in your question. One is about the presentation of the data, and I think that we absolutely need to do more work on how that information is presented and communicated. However, again, all the information is provided in an open and transparent manner.

The second issue is that of regulation, which comes back to what is proportionate. The industry representatives spoke about the various audits that are undertaken and how transparent that data has to be. Of course, records have to be kept, and there would be surveillance of that. We are confident in the information that is provided, but, if it transpired that there was a problem, we would look at that. However, again, any steps that we take with regard to regulation have to be proportionate.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

As I outlined in my opening comments, we realise that there is always more work to be done. This is one area in which we agreed with the recommendations, and we still intend to take them forward.

However, as I have mentioned today, the issue is how we prioritise this work. Overall, it was felt that, as we already have a regime in place for escapes, the priority should be to address potential gaps. That is why there has been a focus on taking forward the work on sea lice, and there is also the work that we are doing on the consenting task group.

It is therefore not possible for me to set a definitive timescale at the moment, but we are still intending to deliver that work. Again, it is a case of factoring it in alongside all the other work that we are taking forward at the moment.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

Charles Allan wants to come in and then we will turn to Hazel Bartels.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

I believe that a lot of progress has been made. As I hope that I outlined in my previous response, we need to look at some of the developments that have taken place in relation to points that were raised about sea lice in those recommendations. We have the introduction of the sea lice framework and the regulatory review that we have undertaken to try to get to grips with the issues, and we have driven forward work on that through the consenting task group. There is also the work on science and innovation that we are taking forward. We have identified the areas where work is still to be done, and we have set out that we are still keen to take that forward.

However, we are in a completely different place from where we were in terms of overall openness and transparency. That situation has very much improved over the period since the report was published. I am pleased with the progress that we have made on the recommendations, although, as I said, there are some areas where we still need to do further work.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

My colleague the Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero and Energy is leading the work in relation to marine planning. I would be happy to provide a written update on the status of the Shetland plan, if that would be helpful.