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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 April 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Monica Lennon

It was emphasised that to try to manage some of the challenges, we need good co-ordination and effective working between Governments, including local government. We are in the early days of a new UK Government. There is a lot of risk there, but there is an opportunity for people at Government level to behave differently, although they might not. We just do not know yet.

Thinking about the governance arrangements, would you recommend anything else to us in relation to the bill that we are looking at?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Monica Lennon

A point was made that we need effective communication and co-ordination. I am interested to know how we can maximise the opportunity for that to happen, and whether there is scope in the bill to do that.

I do not know whether Professor Roy wants to add to his point. David Hawkey might also have something to say.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Monica Lennon

Thank you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Monica Lennon

Thank you, convener. It is on the same issue that you asked about.

I understand that the House of Commons Environmental Audit Committee recommended that a draft climate change plan be published alongside the proposed carbon budget before the carbon budget levels are put into law. That would aid scrutiny and transparency. I am keen to hear Dr Nurse’s view on whether that would be wise and sensible, as well as whether our colleagues around the table think that that is the right approach to take.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Monica Lennon

Are there any other views?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Monica Lennon

Before I come to Emily Nurse, I note that she was right to say that the Government has been working on the climate change plan for some time, but I am not aware that a draft has been published. Should the Government consider the option of putting on the table what it has been doing so far in order to give Parliament and the public a better understanding and provide transparency? There is huge public interest in this area and public anxiety about who will pay the price of many of the interventions that are required. Would it be helpful right now for the Government to think about putting a draft out, or could that be a distraction?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Monica Lennon

David Hawkey has caught my eye again. We will come to Emily Nurse in just a moment.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Monica Lennon

No. I think that my question is worth asking.

We know that there is a complex mix of devolved and reserved policy levers, which we need in order to achieve our emissions reduction targets in Scotland. I think that everyone would agree that we need the Scottish and UK Governments to work together on climate policy, although I do not want to put words in anyone’s mouth—you might not agree with that. If you do, are there any areas of policy that might be more challenging than others in that respect and, if so, what needs to happen to address them?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Monica Lennon

Is it your view that more needs to be done on that political persuasion and a national conversation? That is a role for the Government but also for all of us in the Parliament. How would you see that working in practice if it was to work more effectively?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Monica Lennon

That is helpful. Thank you. I will bring in Emily Nurse.