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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 April 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Monica Lennon

I was not trying to trick you about due diligence. I am trying to establish what happens next, because that is what interests me, as someone who has to vote on the SSI today. I was hoping to hear a bit more certainty about the Government’s position. The Government understands that the committee might not vote as it wants it to vote today, so we want to know what will happen next.

Just so that we are clear, you have not discussed the issue with the cabinet secretary and it has not been discussed with key partners, including SPT. The committee would therefore have to have faith that you are going to go and talk to people, but we do not know what that conversation would be like. That is all; I will leave it there.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Monica Lennon

No—I do not agree with that. I think that the bill as it is currently drafted, in using the term “have regard to”, is weaker than many of us would like it to be; the evidence that we heard at stage 1 reflects that.

My amendments would strengthen the requirement to act in accordance with CCC advice, but they would provide for a departure where there are “exceptional” circumstances. In my view, that would be a better balance than what is currently in the bill.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Monica Lennon

I am pleased to have worked with the Scottish Government on amendment 57. The amendment would require the Scottish Government to lay a section 36 report within six months of a target being reported as missed. The amendment would replace the current requirement for such a report to be laid

“As soon as reasonably practical”

after the report that indicated that the target had been missed. Ministers would continue to be required to set out proposals and policies to compensate in future years for excess emissions resulting from any missed target.

I heard what Mark Ruskell said about his amendment 13. I gently suggest to members that, given that I have worked closely with the Government on the issue following stage 1 evidence, they should support my amendment 57 as the alternative.

I do not intend to speak to all the other amendments. I was looking for clarification from Douglas Lumsden in relation to his amendments 39 and 40, because I thought that they were alternatives to each other. I understand the intent behind Graham Simpson’s amendment 23, but I am concerned that it would be too impractical or place too much demand on the Scottish Government, given that we have amendment 48, which would provide a mechanism for ministers to monitor whether the Government is on track to meet a carbon budget and take remedial action when it is off track.

I have no further comments to add.

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Monica Lennon

Okay—I do not want us to get too distracted from the issue at hand today. As a Parliament, we have decisions to make and we want to get the best possible system for franchising, because that is what we want to happen. The issue comes down to the question of time and delay. Although I am sympathetic to the principle behind the motion to annul and what it is trying to achieve, when I saw it, my concern was that it could lead to delays and get in the way of franchising. However, no franchising proposal is sitting on the table right now. Therefore, I am interested to know when the Government expects the first proposal for franchising to reach approval stage. I am trying to understand how much time we have to play with.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Monica Lennon

You are comfortable that it would be the traffic commissioner regardless of—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Monica Lennon

Realistically, if the consultation gets under way in the spring of next year, when is the earliest that the strategy could reach the approval stage?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Monica Lennon

I am grateful—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Monica Lennon

You have said that the decision on what will happen next is ultimately for the Cabinet Secretary for Transport. Ahead of today’s meeting, have you discussed the matter with the transport secretary, or do you know her view on it?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Monica Lennon

If we agree to the motion to annul the instrument today, in addition to coming back to the committee, would you also endeavour to make a statement to the Parliament so that we can consider the Government’s position on the next steps? We are getting into the realms of amending the primary legislation, and the Government will have options.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Monica Lennon

Thank you. Everyone has been very nice on the committee today.

I accept that you have said that there will be a panel, but I want to go back a bit. You said that if the motion to annul was agreed to, you would be clearing your diary and you and your officials would spend the rest of the day considering what happens next. If we end up with an annulment, could you make a commitment that you would endeavour not just to liaise with the committee but to make a statement to Parliament?