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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Monica Lennon

Good morning, panel. I want to focus on procurement, which has been mentioned. The committee has heard about some of the challenges and we have had some good briefings on the issue. Will the witnesses talk about some of the positives when it comes to procurement, such as the implementation of the sustainable procurement duty? It sounds like the challenges are to do with skills and knowledge; what needs to happen in that regard? What are your top asks of local government and central Government on that? I will go to Barry McCulloch first.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Monica Lennon

Good morning. The Government is relying heavily on the gateway review, which has been mentioned. The committee has had a submission from the Association for the Protection of Rural Scotland, which says that the gateway review and assurance of action plan is weak and has “many shortcomings”, one of the most obvious of which is the

“skewed choice of organisations interviewed.”

The submission goes on:

“Fully 40% of those spoken to were either Scottish Government or under their direct oversight ... and another 40% were producers or retailers. No organisations interviewed were operators of deposit return schemes”.

The association is also concerned that domestic and international experts were not spoken to, and says that that is the equivalent of

“trying to work out whether a vehicle could be fixed without speaking to a single mechanic.”

Is the association wrong?

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Monica Lennon

It is good to hear you mention community wealth building.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Monica Lennon

Thank you, Tracy. The example of the Passivhaus and Exeter was interesting. I know that Alex Rowley MSP wants to propose a member’s bill on Passivhaus standards, so I hope that he will read the Official Report of this meeting.

We do not have a lot of time, so my second question is about the Scottish National Investment Bank. Barry McCulloch mentioned it in response to a question from Fiona Hyslop. Perhaps you could keep it really brief, because we are short of time. What is your view of the role of the Scottish National Investment Bank in supporting small and medium-sized enterprises and in delivering on net zero objectives?

I think that Barry was trying to come back in on Tracy’s point. I will hand over to Barry because he seems keen.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Monica Lennon

For my next question, I will stick with you, Mark, and then go back to the other witnesses. You made an interesting comment about communities often feeling that things are being done to them and not being fully engaged in the conversation. Taking the example of food waste, I ask each of you to give your perspective on how development trusts, community groups or community land owners can be involved in driving change and action and raising awareness. I recently spoke to Zero Waste Scotland about food waste, which is a hugely challenging issue for local authorities and right across the public and third sector. Mark, do you have any ideas or feedback on that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Monica Lennon

That is very helpful to get us started. Perhaps Ailsa Raeburn can add to that, or share some different thoughts.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Monica Lennon

Before that, I want to go back to something. We are hearing about lots of examples of good practice across the public sector, but there is frustration that they are not being scaled up. I am thinking about the innovation question. There will be some really good stuff out there. How can we unlock the opportunity to scale that up? Maybe your colleague can pick up the innovation part of the question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Monica Lennon

Good morning to all our witnesses. My interest today is in waste and the role of public bodies in Scotland’s journey to a fully circular economy. How do public procurement practices need to develop to achieve a circular economy, and how well is that work being co-ordinated across the public sector? Where is innovation happening, and what do you see as the main challenges?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Monica Lennon

Again, that is helpful. I put the same question to Mark McRitchie.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Monica Lennon

Yes, that is correct.