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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 20 November 2025
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

We will return to those themes as we go through the morning.

I have one other question, which I think is largely for you to answer, Mr Brannen. You have told us already that things are well under way and that, although the recommendations and timescales might be quite challenging, the recommendations are already being addressed, and you accept them all.

We took evidence from the Auditor General and other people from Audit Scotland on 17 September—which is not that long ago—as well as from Andrew Burns from the Accounts Commission. As was also captured in the report, Mr Burns said that, while there is now a strategy, which is

“a step in the right direction ... there is not an implementation plan.”—[Official Report, Public Audit Committee, 17 September 2025; c 40.]

Why is that?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

The recommendation is that you will publish that implementation plan. Are you prepared to go on the record to say that you will do that?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

That was perhaps more of a philosophical contribution, Jamie, and I think that it nicely ends that section of questions, if that is okay with you.

Jamie, you are unable to see this—we all can—but Will Burnish wanted to come in on your last question. I will give Mr Burnish the final word in this session.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

If you can share any of that information with the committee, it would be useful. The cost issue was raised in the report, which is why Colin Beattie asked the question about it.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

I will bring you in at this point, Ms Paterson. What is SEPA’s perspective on what is identified in the report as “gaps” and sometimes “a lack of clarity” about roles and responsibilities?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Thank you. Colin Beattie has some questions.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of UHI Perth”

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Thank you. As we have mentioned a few times this morning, an important report was produced last week on the funding position of further education. We will be having an evidence session on that broader palette and of course Mr Brown is very welcome to join us, either as the substitute member of the committee or as somebody who has a very particular interest in relation to his own constituency.

I will finish on the particularity of UHI Perth. The departing finance director, Gavin Stevenson, gave an interview to The Courier newspaper, in which he said that the college’s financial position was “perilous” and that it was in a “desperately precarious situation”. He even said that the “nuclear option” might have to be considered, by which I presume he meant the closure of all, or maybe part, of the education service that is currently provided by the college. Do you have any reflections on that perspective?

11:15  

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Our impact: Monitoring and evaluation report 2025”

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Agenda item 3 is consideration of the Audit Scotland report “Our impact: Monitoring and Evaluation Report 2025”. We are again joined by the Auditor General, Stephen Boyle, and alongside Mr Boyle is Mark MacPherson—you are welcome back, Mr MacPherson—and Michelle Borland, who is the head of organisational improvement at Audit Scotland. We have one or two questions to put to you but, before we get to those, Auditor General, I invite you to make an opening statement.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Our impact: Monitoring and evaluation report 2025”

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Mr Brown will ask some questions about social media and media in general and so on but, before we get to those, I invite the deputy convener to put a couple of questions.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Our impact: Monitoring and evaluation report 2025”

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Richard Leonard

On that note, I draw this session to a close. I thank Michelle Borland, Martin MacPherson and Stephen Boyle for their evidence on that report. It is a theme that we will return to, and I am sure it will be part of our deliberations when we consider our legacy report for the next session of Parliament.

As agreed earlier by the committee, I will now move us into private session.

11:52 Meeting continued in private until 12:05.