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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 26 November 2025
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Okay, thanks. I call Mr Dixon, on behalf of COSLA.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

You have been around for a few years, Mr Brannen.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

If you do not mind, Mr Brannen, I will ask the COSLA representative to give their perspective, because local government is often at the other end of things. We will get into the funding arrangements over the course of this morning, but there is quite a big onus on both local government and central Government to find the capital expenditure required. It is therefore important to understand where the transfer of risk takes place and who is responsible if things fall behind.

Mr Dixon, what is the local government perspective on the gaps and on whether there is clarity on roles and responsibilities?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Following up on the last point, the issue is sometimes whether that matrix has unintended consequences. Certainly, reflecting on the evidence session that we had with the Auditor General and the Accounts Commission, it seems that some study might be useful—it could be done by the Government or by an academic institution—to see whether there is any kind of correlation.

To Mr Burnish’s point, if more housing for working-class communities has been built on flood plains, it might validate the point about where the resilience is being carried out. Conversely, the anecdotal evidence in Audit Scotland and the Accounts Commission’s report suggests that there might be a skew. More organised middle-class communities are certainly sometimes very good at getting decisions to be made.

Mr Ó Néill, do you want to come in on that point?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Thank you. That is very helpful.

I will now bring in Graham Simpson to put questions to you.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much. I invite Nicole Paterson to make an opening statement on behalf of SEPA.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Okay. I can say from my time as convener of this committee that it has not always been the case that timescales have been set by Audit Scotland or the Accounts Commission in reports. However, it has, I think, become practice to try to give a bit more of an impetus to acceptance and implementation of the recommendations. That is why the report is set out in the way that it is.

The report certainly uncovers some areas where there is a certain level of dissatisfaction, if not concern. Indeed, the very first recommendation talks about “gaps” and a lack of clarity over “roles and responsibilities”. How would you address that criticism?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

There have been gaps in cycle 1, presumably.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much, and thanks to the deputy convener for that final series of questions.

We have run out of time, so I will draw this morning’s session to a close. Before I do, I take this opportunity to thank all of you—Anne Aitken, Diarmuid Ó Néill, director general Roy Brannen, Michelagh O’Neill, Nicole Paterson, Alex Flucker, Mark Boyd, Gareth Dixon and Will Burnish—for your contributions. You have all had an opportunity to give us evidence this morning, and we really appreciate that.

There was some scepticism as to whether we needed so many witnesses for one session, but I think that it has proved useful in giving us a fuller version of how you see things and the perspectives of your different organisations and parts of government. It has certainly given us as a committee a lot to consider, so thank you all very much.

I now move the meeting into private session.

11:18 Meeting continued in private until 12:04.  

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Thank you. Joe FitzPatrick has some questions for the witnesses.