The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of MSPs and committees will automatically update to show only the MSPs and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of MSPs and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of MSPs and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
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Meeting of the Commission
Meeting date: 18 December 2024
Richard Leonard
Let me move on to another area that crops up in the “Other operating costs” section of your proposal, which is an expectation that, certainly compared to two years ago, you are looking at a significant increase in legal fees. Can you explain the occasions that Audit Scotland requires to procure legal support externally? What areas do you take legal advice on?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 12 December 2024
Richard Leonard
Thank you for clarifying that.
Your report includes a summary of progress against some of your recommendations from previous years’ reports. Some of the recommendations that you made in previous years are repeated this year. Do you think that sufficient progress is being made in the areas that you have highlighted as being important for improving the performance of the national health service in Scotland?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 12 December 2024
Richard Leonard
Let me pick up that theme. In your evidence to us last week, you referred to your concern about the lack of a medium-term financial strategy, which was also expressed by the Institute for Fiscal Studies and other bodies. In your report this week, you refer to there being insufficient clarity about a medium-term financial plan for the NHS and say that we are still awaiting an NHS capital investment and asset management strategy—so some quite important parts of the framework do not exist. I go back to my earlier point: the calls that you have made in previous reports still do not appear to have been met.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 12 December 2024
Richard Leonard
I will now bring in Graham Simpson, who wants to continue on some of the themes introduced by the deputy convener.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 12 December 2024
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much. I will begin with a minor technical question. You came before the committee to give evidence in March this year, and you have changed the publication date for your latest report, so it seems that the cycle of your reporting on the financial state and operational performance of the national health service in Scotland has changed. Does that mean that you will revert to publishing your reports every 12 months around this time of year?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 12 December 2024
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much. I invite Jamie Greene to come in.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 12 December 2024
Richard Leonard
One area of capital spending that has previously come under scrutiny by the committee relates to the programme of investment in national treatment centres. When the chief executive of NHS Scotland was before us in June this year, we asked her about that. She sent us correspondence in which she confirmed that the plan for six national treatment centres had gone from originally costing £200 million to costing more than that. The running total at that time—summer this year—was £827 million, which represents a quadrupling of the cost. Are you in a position to give us an update on where we are with the national treatment centres investment programme?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 12 December 2024
Richard Leonard
I think that that is right. That was a significant part of last week’s budget announcement.
I want to move on to another area. I am looking at exhibit 7 in the report that we are considering today, which is a bar chart that shows the annual unitary charges that are payable under public-private partnership contracts. I was quite surprised that that chart stretches all the way to 2045-46. In other words, I thought that we had moved away from the model of private finance initiatives and public-private partnerships into a new age, in which we were no longer liable for the big unitary costs that that model involves, but it looks as though those costs are on-going.
You can keep me right on this, but I think that the normal lifetime of a PFI or PPP contract is about 25 or 30 years. If the expiry date is 2045, I presume that we are talking about capital projects that were commissioned under that form of financing fairly recently.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 12 December 2024
Richard Leonard
We have just a few minutes left, but there is time for a couple of questions from the deputy convener to finish the session by looking at a couple of other aspects of operational performance.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 12 December 2024
Richard Leonard
I will draw the evidence session to a close at that point. In doing so, I thank the Auditor General very much for the evidence that he has given us. I also thank Carol Calder, Leigh Johnston and Bernie Milligan for their input. We have quite a lot to think about and we need to consider what our next steps might be. Thank you very much once again for your time and input.
I now move the committee into private session.
11:00 Meeting continued in private until 11:35.