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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 April 2025
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Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Richard Leonard

Agenda item 2 is consideration of the joint report by the Auditor General for Scotland and the Accounts Commission, “Alcohol and drug services”. We took evidence from the Auditor General and his team a couple of weeks ago, and this morning I am pleased to welcome representatives from the Scottish Government. We are joined by the accountable officer from the health and social care directorates, Caroline Lamb, who is the chief executive of NHS Scotland and the Scottish Government’s director general of health and social care. Caroline is joined by Maggie Page, who is the head of the Government’s drugs strategy unit. You are very welcome. We are also joined by Scott Heald, director of data and innovation and head of profession for statistics at Public Health Scotland. You are very welcome, too, Mr Heald.

We have some questions to put to you but, before we get to those, I invite the director general to make some opening remarks.

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Richard Leonard

Can I explore that a bit more? You referred to the letter that you sent us, which I think was dated 10 December, in which you very clearly, and quite often, use the phrase:

“The Scottish Government accepts this recommendation”—

indeed, you use it in regard to nearly all the recommendations. However, there are two for which you do not. The first is recommendation 1, which is to

“work with key stakeholders to agree actions”

to address the lack of

“focus and funding for tackling alcohol-related harm”.

Do you accept that there has been a loss of focus on alcohol-related harm?

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Richard Leonard

Members of the committee will pick that up. However, obviously, you are not a stakeholder but the accountable officer for the Scottish Government.

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Richard Leonard

For example.

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Richard Leonard

Before I invite other members of the committee to come in, I will ask about drug poisoning, which you mentioned and which is the index that allows you to compare across the UK. However, that tells us that the incidence of deaths is twice as high in Scotland as it is in other parts of the UK. You say that it is complicated, but surely it is your job to understand what the factors are and why Scotland is such an outlier. As we said in the evidence session with the Auditor General, there is huge multiple deprivation in parts of the north of England and south Wales, and in Northern Ireland, yet the figures in Scotland are so shocking.

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Richard Leonard

One of the things that is mentioned in the report—Caroline Lamb mentioned it in her opening statement—is the increased incidence of drug harms related to cocaine, rising from 6 to 41 per cent. That is documented in the report. Do we know whether that is a Scottish phenomenon, or is it happening across the UK and Europe?

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much. James Dornan is joining us via videolink, and I invite him to put some questions to you.

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Richard Leonard

I might be talking about a slightly longer time horizon. The matter has been raised with me in discussions that I have had over the past few years.

We need to move on, so I am very happy to invite Graham Simpson to put some questions to you.

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Richard Leonard

One other very brief question.

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Richard Leonard

Okay, thank you. We will have more questions around issues to do with the focus on alcohol-related harms and so on, but first I will turn to the opening sections of the report that we have before us this morning, which, once again, puts some focus on Scotland’s performance when it comes to drug deaths. In paragraph 2 of the report, it is cited that

“Scotland had a drug-induced death rate of 27.7 per 100,000 population”.

The next highest in Europe is 9.7 per 100,000, so that is almost three times the rate of drug deaths. What work is the Government doing to understand why there is such a public health crisis with drug deaths in Scotland?