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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Public Audit Committee

“Criminal courts backlog”

Meeting date: 8 June 2023

Richard Leonard

The report addresses the response during the pandemic and the lockdown, and all the restrictions that were in place at that time. Willie Coffey has a series of questions on that, but I will ask one before I turn to him.

One of the things that happened during that time was that the sheriff court system was consolidated into 10 hub centres and the JP courts were also incorporated into that. We had 10 hubs and they were asked to consider essential business. Could you tell us how essential business was defined?

Public Audit Committee

“Criminal courts backlog”

Meeting date: 8 June 2023

Richard Leonard

In the report, you mention other weaknesses over and above the failure to carry out equality impact assessments. You set those out in paragraph 83. Again, they stand out as areas of significant concern. You say that the Scottish Government and the criminal justice board

“did not agree clear plans, outcomes and success measures”

for the recover, renew, transform programme; that

“the RRT advisory group was not given the opportunity to be sufficiently engaged”

in that programme; and that the advisory group did not seem to get full access to decision making.

You also say that

“wider public reporting of the programme was limited”;

that there was inconsistency; that minutes of the criminal justice board meetings were not produced; and that the results of a lessons-learned exercise appear not to have been adopted.

We would expect such rudimentary elements of operation to be met but, according to your report and findings, that was simply not the case. Will you elaborate a bit more on why that was?

Public Audit Committee

“Criminal courts backlog”

Meeting date: 8 June 2023

Richard Leonard

Has work begun on addressing those weaknesses?

Public Audit Committee

“Criminal courts backlog”

Meeting date: 8 June 2023

Richard Leonard

Thank you. We might follow up on that as well, as we consider our next steps.

Craig Hoy has a final series of questions.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Richard Leonard

So, is that is a yes?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Richard Leonard

Just roughly.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Richard Leonard

So, whose name is at the bottom of that contract with FMI? Is it the Scottish Government’s or FMPG’s?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Richard Leonard

But the FMI website says:

“We act with integrity and transparency, holding ourselves to the highest standards”.

According to my reading of the reports, the contractor FMI—not the client that was buying its services—instigated the non-disclosure agreement.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Richard Leonard

Again, Mr Tydeman, you understand that a quarter of a million pounds of public money has been spent on that piece of work, and we are told that we can have no sight of it whatsoever.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Richard Leonard

Okay. Mr Tydeman or Mr Miller, do you have any reflections on the bonus payments? We are talking about the report that was produced by Audit Scotland, which drew particular attention to £87,000 that was paid out, based on a 17.5 per cent bonus payment that was made to certain senior members of the team.