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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 April 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

No. I am asking you, Mr Miller, because it is clear—it has been stated several times, by various people—that Mr Mackenzie did not feed that in to the board or to the board sub-committee.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Had you been in his shoes at the time, what would you have done?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Okay. So you would share that information and involve other people in that decision.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Okay. You have made your position clear.

I will now ask our deputy convener to put questions to you from part 1 of his suite of questions.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Hang on a minute. The last minute that was published—it is very thorough—clearly shows interventions and speaking parts by members of the strategic commercial assets division. Frankly, I would expect that. As the DG economy for the Scottish Government, you might not, but I would expect it.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

If issues of internal control and governance are highlighted by the Auditor General’s report, is there not a duty or a responsibility on those people, as observers of the board meetings, to voice concerns or to intervene, as set out in the framework agreement?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

We will get to those in a minute. I am asking you, as the accountable officer in the Scottish Government, for an overall point of view. Maybe Mr Rhatigan or Mr Cook can address some of these questions—

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Agenda item 2 is further consideration of the report, “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”. This morning, we are very pleased to welcome to the committee a number of representatives from both Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Ltd and the Scottish Government to give evidence on the report.

I extend a welcome to our witnesses. David Dishon, is chief financial officer and accountable officer, FMPG, Andrew Miller is chair of the FMPG board, and John Petticrew is interim chief executive, FMPG. From the Scottish Government, we are joined by the director general for economy, Gregor Irwin. Alongside him are Colin Cook, director of economic development, and Dermot Rhatigan, deputy director, strategic commercial assets division.

We have some questions to put to you on the report, but before we get to them, I ask Mr Miller and Mr Irwin to give opening statements, beginning with the director general for economy, Mr Irwin.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Thank you, Mr Irwin. I call Mr Miller.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

It will need to be the final point before I bring the deputy convener in.