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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 April 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

We are up against the clock, but the deputy convener has some important final questions to put to you. Over to you, Jamie.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Does that include clearance from the cabinet secretary?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Okay. “Yes” from the civil service is the right answer. However, it would be helpful if you could go back and clarify for us what was known and when, because that is quite important.

In a newspaper report Mr Tydeman said that he had no idea that he was going to be sacked—that it was almost a summary dismissal. If there was due process, it would be useful to have that put on the record, too.

Mr Irwin, when you gave evidence on 25 January regarding the secondment arrangement, you told us that there was no reference to the Ferguson Marine board. However, Mr Tydeman has told us, in writing, that he made Mr Mackenzie, who was chair of the board at that time—February and March 2022—aware of that arrangement. Again, is Mr Tydeman wrong?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Okay. On behalf of the Scottish Government, Mr Irwin, do you accept the findings of the Audit Scotland report?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

It is published in the papers for the committee meeting.

Public Audit Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Good morning, and welcome to the fifth meeting in 2025 of the Public Audit Committee.

Agenda item 1 is a decision on taking business in private. Do committee members agree to take items 3 and 4 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Yes, well. Their involvement at the board meetings is interesting.

Mr Miller, while you have the floor, why have no board minutes been published on the FMPG website since 30 May 2024? That is more than eight months ago. For your information, this committee is interested in transparency. I presume that the board has been meeting, and we will get to that later on.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Without a preamble. [Laughter.]

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Hang on a minute, Mr Miller. Mr Tydeman says that he consulted the then chair of the board, who was your predecessor.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

As the chair of the board now, if either the accountable officer, Mr Dishon, or the chief executive officer, Mr Petticrew, said to you, “I propose that we second somebody from another organisation on these terms”, would you be duty bound to report that to the board, the remuneration committee, the internal risk and audit committee or some other sub-committee?