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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 7 November 2025
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

That was perhaps more of a philosophical contribution, Jamie, and I think that it nicely ends that section of questions, if that is okay with you.

Jamie, you are unable to see this—we all can—but Will Burnish wanted to come in on your last question. I will give Mr Burnish the final word in this session.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

If you can share any of that information with the committee, it would be useful. The cost issue was raised in the report, which is why Colin Beattie asked the question about it.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

I will bring you in at this point, Ms Paterson. What is SEPA’s perspective on what is identified in the report as “gaps” and sometimes “a lack of clarity” about roles and responsibilities?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Thank you. Colin Beattie has some questions.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

That is great. Jamie Greene, the committee’s deputy convener, joins us by videolink.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Good morning. I welcome everyone to the 28th meeting in 2025 of the Public Audit Committee. We are joined online by the deputy convener, Jamie Greene.

Agenda item 1 is a decision for members of the committee on whether to take agenda items 3, 4 and 5 in private. Do we agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Agenda item 2 is further consideration of the Audit Scotland and Accounts Commission report, “Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”. I am pleased to welcome to the committee a large array of witnesses from the Scottish Government, the Scottish Environment Protection Agency and the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities.

From the Scottish Government, I welcome the director general for net zero, Roy Brannen. He is with us this morning with Diarmuid Ó Néill, who is the interim director of environment and forestry; Anne Aitken, who is the deputy director of environmental quality and resilience; and Michelagh O’Neill, who is the flooding team leader.

We have representatives from SEPA: I am pleased to welcome Nicole Paterson, who is the chief executive, and Alex Flucker, who is the chief operating officer for data, evidence and innovation. You are very welcome, Mr Flucker.

From COSLA, I am pleased to welcome Gareth Dixon, who is a policy manager on local government finance; Mark Boyd, who is the head of finance at North Ayrshire Council, but is here representing COSLA; and Will Burnish, who is a senior engineer at Moray Council and is representing the Scottish Collaboration of Transportation Specialists, or SCOTS.

We have a number of questions to put that are based on the findings contained in the report but, before we get to those questions, I invite the director general to make a short opening statement.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much. I will begin by asking what is for us a standard question. Mr Brannen has, to some extent, addressed this already, but I want to ask each of you in turn whether you accept the findings and recommendations contained in this joint Audit Scotland and Accounts Commission report.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Okay, thanks.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Okay, thanks. I call Mr Dixon, on behalf of COSLA.