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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 February 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 10 February 2026

Gillian Martin

Energy security is also an aspect. The more we reduce our reliance on the burning of fossil fuels in all aspects of our life, the more we are protected from global economic shocks. Look at the situation that Germany was in when, overnight, because of the illegal invasion of Ukraine, it made the decision that it could not take Russian oil and gas. The impact that that had on many European countries was severe, and they had to look to other sources.

The best way that a country can protect itself is to produce green electricity and hydrogen at scale, by ramping up efforts in relation to hydro and ensuring that it has the storage that is needed for that electricity so that it can have as much energy security as possible. At the same time as all those efforts, infrastructure has to be built out to provide the capacity for more electricity so that that can displace the burning of fossil fuels.

We also have to take into account, sadly, that peak oil and gas in the North Sea is decades behind us. To protect ourselves against the energy security aspects of a decline in oil and gas production, we need to put mechanisms and replacements in place. That is why there is such a drive for renewables in Scotland and why we are doing so well at that compared with the rest of the UK.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 10 February 2026

Gillian Martin

If CCUS did not develop at the level that the Climate Change Committee has modelled in its calculations, that committee would have to go back to its assumptions and provide additional advice, which we would look at. In successive pieces of advice to the UK and Scottish Governments, the Climate Change Committee has factored in negative emissions technology and CCUS at scale.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 10 February 2026

Gillian Martin

The emissions that are associated with energy from waste come to about 0.3 megatonnes, so are relatively small compared with those from other areas.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 10 February 2026

Gillian Martin

We are looking at that happening in the next couple of years.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 10 February 2026

Gillian Martin

I know—I am sorry.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 10 February 2026

Gillian Martin

Exactly.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 10 February 2026

Gillian Martin

Phil has obviously got that organised.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 10 February 2026

Gillian Martin

There have been more than 500 responses, but Phil says that we will have it to give to you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 10 February 2026

Gillian Martin

We will look at the committee’s report and carry out our analysis of the responses. I imagine that we will have a debate with all the committees that are reporting on the plan, and we will take all of that into consideration. I can say no more than that.

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 10 February 2026

Gillian Martin

As you know, time for debating in Parliament is for the Parliamentary Bureau to decide. I have said throughout the entire process that my intention is to lay the final climate change plan before the dissolution of Parliament.