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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 February 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

John Mason

Will the member take an intervention?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

John Mason

That is very kind.

Surely the point is that we need to define what is independent, and then it is up to the young person or whoever to choose whether they want to be represented by someone who is independent or someone who is not independent, such as a teacher or social worker. They would still have that choice.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

John Mason

I am very sympathetic to what the member is saying. Is there not a problem, though, in that, especially there if the staff in a care home have completely changed, that is not quite the same situation as when an individual goes back to their family home?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

John Mason

I am sorry to intervene again, but you mentioned foster families. Would they have to take the person back?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

John Mason

I am now confused, because I have Martin Whitfield’s amendments, Nicola Sturgeon’s amendments and Willie Rennie’s amendments before me. I am sympathetic to them all, but are they alternatives to one another?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

John Mason

Does the member accept that, although a young person might choose not to have an independent advocate and might choose, as the member has suggested, to have someone with whom they already have a good relationship, it is still important that they should be offered an independent advocate?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

John Mason

Will the member allow me to intervene for a third time?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

John Mason

That is an extremely good point that the minister has made, if I have understood her correctly. We can come up with a definition of “independent” somewhere, but, at the same time, the person will have the choice of an independent person or someone else.

I would also suggest that the notion of independence has been debated. We debated it in relation to the issue of commissioners at the Finance and Public Administration Committee, and we have debated it with regard to accountants in my own profession. It is a spectrum—it is not some black-or-white issue. We will never reach a clear definition of independence that everyone accepts, but at least we will have something.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

John Mason

I accept that the issue is not just about finance, but it partly is. Does Jeremy Balfour have any idea about what the proposal would cost?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

John Mason

I think that the member has answered the question that I was going to raise, which was about how that would tie in with a foster care situation. There might be new foster kids in a family and, in that situation, accommodation might simply not be available.