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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 5 February 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Universities

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

John Mason

They cannot make a loss year after year, so the costs have to be kept at the same level as the income, do they not?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Universities

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

John Mason

How far should the university be able to decide how it spends its money? That has come up already. Should we be interfering more and saying, “Well, you can spend only so much on capital and pay more in wages”, and get into that kind of detail?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Universities

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

John Mason

Edinburgh and Glasgow universities are fabulously rich, so why should they get extra money?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Universities

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

John Mason

If the university has got that money in its pocket, why not?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Universities

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

John Mason

If Strathclyde university has deep pockets and can pay for it, and the NHS cannot pay for its staff, surely the Government has to put the money into the NHS, not into the university.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Universities

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

John Mason

Edinburgh university has more reserves than the Scottish Government.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Universities

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

John Mason

Maybe I can touch on one or two issues that we have covered already. We heard from the principals or senior staff of Dundee and Edinburgh universities that, basically, they did not have good control of costs or what was actually happening in the university. Those cases were slightly different. At Edinburgh, there is a lot of decentralisation, with different schools or faculties—the centre did not seem to know what was going on, and costs were just allowed to drift. It appeared that staff numbers just kept increasing and nobody looked at that.

In a sense, I am perhaps playing devil’s advocate here. There is an argument that some of the universities got a bit bloated and took on more staff than they should ever have had, and now they are coming back to what should be the normal level of staffing. Do you agree?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Universities

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

John Mason

And yet the numbers have to add up—the income cannot be less than the expenditure, can it?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Universities

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

John Mason

The university’s accounts have to balance—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Universities

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

John Mason

The capital expenditure would not immediately hit the profit-and-loss account. The capital expenditure would be separate, would it not?