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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 April 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

John Mason

I presume that the alternative would be to make further cuts in other expenditure.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

John Mason

Okay. That was a bonus question that I had not really planned.

Mr Lonsdale, in your submission you say that you would like

“to reduce the cost of running the government”,

as

“this would ease the pressure on the funding of other services”.

Are there risks in reducing the level of government? We have seen examples—the major recent one was Grenfell—of what happens when there is a lack of oversight and regulation and the Government is not involved enough. Are there risks around health and safety in cutting the level of government?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

John Mason

I will not ask how much you spent. [Laughter.]

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

John Mason

Okay. Ms Manson, thanks for your submission, too. One of your themes seems to be the need to reduce business rates—non-domestic rates. Have you any suggestions for how we should fund that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

John Mason

Glasgow has some very good examples of businesses in the hospitality sector that are expanding and seem to be doing very well.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 4 September 2024

John Mason

Other members might want to follow up on that.

There have been calls to accelerate the pace of change. It sometimes seems that any change or reform takes a long time while consultations, surveys and reviews are undertaken. One of the First Minister’s themes is that there should be more action and perhaps a little less thinking—that might be the wrong word, but perhaps there should be a little less consultation and review. What is your response to that? Can we increase the pace, or is it inevitable that those things take time?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 4 September 2024

John Mason

That is helpful. As you know, I am also on the Finance and Public Administration Committee, which is looking at public sector reform and trying to simplify things. This is a fairly small country, yet we seem to have an awful lot of organisations out there. I want to make that point, if you are committed to simplifying things.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 4 September 2024

John Mason

I made a couple of visits during recess. I visited Glasgow Kelvin College, which is in my constituency, and went with the Finance and Public Administration Committee last week to visit the University of Dundee. Both were clear that they face financial challenges. Will the reform agenda help them to address those challenges?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 4 September 2024

John Mason

Other members might want to explore that issue more. Are you worried about the financial state of some colleges and universities? They seem to be in quite a serious position down south.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 4 September 2024

John Mason

I will follow up the point about funding. I accept that what we are paying for Scottish students has not increased. However, some of the universities are sitting on quite large reserves. If we are all having to tighten our belts, can we not expect the universities to contribute a bit more to students’ tuition? The last time I looked, the University of Glasgow had £1,000 million of reserves, and I think that the University of Edinburgh’s reserves might be even higher. I accept that some of the newer universities do not have that kind of money, but surely they have to contribute, too.