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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 April 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

John Mason

I accept that there are some safeguards in the bill. The concern is that, in legislation in this country and in other jurisdictions, often the initial jump has certain safeguards, and then things get watered down or widened out over time. I accept that you cannot be responsible for that, but the big jump is allowing this at all, and none of us can anticipate whether it will stick firmly going forward or whether it will gradually change. We have to take some of those things into account at this point, as we look ahead.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

John Mason

I want to pick up on something that Andy Witty said—the issue might also affect others. Obviously, the colleges sector would like more money, and I wonder whether you think that the Scottish budget is spread out in a reasonable way, or whether we should be giving more money to colleges and universities, which would mean less money for other sectors. Over the years, we have been generous to health, which has received a real-terms increase every year, and social security spending is going up quite a lot due to things such as the Scottish child payment, which has been very successful. Have we got the balance wrong between investing directly in the economy, via the universities and colleges, and investing in health and social security?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

John Mason

I will continue on that theme with two questions, and I go back to Andy Witty first.

You suggest that we have more money for colleges, as there is money coming through in the consequentials. The simple answer is that the money is going to social security. There has been a huge increase in that area last year and this year. Would you go as far as saying that we should cut back on social security, which would hurt some of the poorest people, in order to put more into colleges or other sectors? I aim that question at you to start with, but others might want to come in.

On a slightly similar theme, Mr Begbie, you said that we have a lot of people in low-paid jobs. Presumably, that includes cleaners and people who work in Tesco. If they all go into the tech sector, we will still need cleaners. Should we just be upping the minimum wage so that people in basic jobs are paid much better? Is that what you are arguing for?

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

John Mason

Is it a legal requirement in Australia that people pay more wages?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

John Mason

Over a year.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

John Mason

Yes, it is difficult, but we have had a similar problem in this committee with a range of bills. I take your point that, normally, the committee is looking at costs perhaps being underestimated and savings perhaps being overestimated, and I am looking at it the other way round. However, we expect to see best estimates in the financial memorandum.

Presumably, there is evidence from around the world. It cannot be proved when someone would have died otherwise, but there must be estimates as to how much before the expected point of death they have died. It seems to me that there would be savings, and that is one of my concerns.

Although I take your point that doctors will not be making decisions or recommendations or giving advice based on financial factors, it is part of the system that we are all in a very cost-driven society. The state pension would be one cost, but if somebody was in hospital, I think that there would be a cost of perhaps £300 a day for being in hospital, so, for a week, we would be talking about a cost of £2,000. Similarly, in a care home, we would be talking about a cost of £6,000 a month, so it would not take very long for some kind of savings to start building up, surely.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

John Mason

I take your point that we could proceed in either way. However, I would say that amendments 61 and 75, in particular, seem to be fairly gentle. Can you spell out your reservations a little bit more? All that they are saying is that we must “consider” whether certain information should be provided in Gaelic, and must

“have regard to the desirability”

of publishing certain other information in Scots. I am not sure that that means anything. What is the real problem with the amendments?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

John Mason

I follow your argument, but do you accept that, as long as the bill says that there should be targets, it does not need to say exactly what those targets are?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26 and Economic and Fiscal Forecasts

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

John Mason

Professor Ulph, do you have something to add?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26 and Economic and Fiscal Forecasts

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

John Mason

That takes me on to another point that I had intended to raise later. We are talking about a shortage of staff in the public and private sectors. Is the situation different in Scotland from in the UK? We get the impression that fewer immigrants come here because it rains so much and so on. Are the gaps greater in Scotland?