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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2024
John Mason
One of the answers that we had on Tuesday was that we would better understand unmet need, and I think that you are confirming that. I am a little surprised that we do not know what that need is. For example, I guess that some people who are at home need to be in a care home but that there is no budget or space for that.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2024
John Mason
Okay, so there are two different kinds of unmet need, in a sense: the one that we know about and the one that we do not know about.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2024
John Mason
Are the third sector and the private sector involved in that discussion?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2024
John Mason
I understand that the Government has an assumption against the creation of new bodies unless there is a very good reason for it.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2024
John Mason
Right, so you have not decided that—that is fine.
On Tuesday, as your colleagues will remember, I asked about integration authorities and will touch on that again. I asked about the relationship between integration authorities and what sits around them: councils, the NHS and the new national care board. My feeling is that, in the past, because councils and the NHS viewed budgets in slightly different ways, that caused a bit of a challenge for the integration authorities, and I wonder whether that will become more complex once we have the national care board as well.
10:15Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2024
John Mason
How quickly would even the one that we know about be met? I should probably say that I used to work in the care sector. However, to take a personal example, my mother was falling regularly and we as a family decided that she needed to be in a care home. It took quite some time for the local authority to confirm that she needed to be in a care home, although it eventually did. During that gap period, my mother was able to afford the fees. The council made its contribution eventually. Will that change at all?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2024
John Mason
Are they happy with where we are going?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2024
John Mason
Is that unmet need that we have to meet included in the budget, or will that be additional, further down the line?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2024
John Mason
So the bill will make the system better, but it will not produce more money. One reason why South Lanarkshire Council could not put my mother in a care home was that it did not have enough money. The bill will not put more money into the number of people in care.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2024
John Mason
That sounds positive. I hope that that is the case.
When it comes to the word “efficiency”, one of my thoughts is that, certainly when I was in the care sector, there was a move from smaller to larger care homes. Certainly, some third sector care homes and others are quite small. One means of efficiency is to close the smaller care homes and have much bigger ones. Glasgow has tended to go down that route. Is that part of your thinking as well, or is that separate?