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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 27 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

John Mason

There is a bit of interaction there.

The phrase “training needs analysis” has been raised, although I have forgotten the name of the witness who raised it. Perhaps that is what happens at the moment, but would you be sympathetic to the idea that every member of staff should themselves examine what training they need, given the situation that they are in?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

John Mason

Fair enough. That is helpful.

This might be a question for Professor Seaton. Some of my colleagues have asked whether there is enough consultation, but there is an incredibly lengthy process under way compared with what you would find in the private sector, and a huge amount of consultation and negotiation is taking place. In the private sector, someone would come in, make decisions and make people redundant. In asking this question I am not suggesting that I support that approach, but why are universities so slow? Mr Hamill, you were at Edinburgh university previously. It seemed to jump more quickly towards redundancies, saving itself from getting into a big problem. Does everything take such a long time because you are so dependent on the SFC?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

John Mason

It strikes me that it is probably a good thing to have different approaches, certainly for individual teachers, as there is a whole range of schools out there.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

John Mason

The issue of training has already been touched on by others. As Mr Greer has pointed out—it is a point that I was going to raise—it was brought to the committee’s attention that, as you have suggested already, teachers are perhaps fearful of restraining kids in any way at the moment. More training—and, indeed, more standardised training—might, in a sense, reassure teachers that they can use restraint, which might, in turn, lead to an increase in its use. Would that concern you?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

John Mason

Could any teacher not be in a situation where there needs to be physical intervention—for example, if a secondary 6 pupil is bashing an S1 who has special needs?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

John Mason

That is helpful; thank you. What about management accounts? I take it that they are being produced monthly. Who gets to see those? Can we see them?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

John Mason

I do not know what the convener thinks, but I would quite like to see anything that we can have. That would be great. I would like to see quite a lot, including any draft accounts for 2024 or 2025—I am more interested in the accounts than some of my colleagues are.

You mentioned the audit and risk committee and the finance and policy committee. Do they meet more often nowadays because you have had financial problems?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

John Mason

Yes, exactly. Some people will get trained up to a high level and then they will train within the local authority. Does that fit with this model?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

John Mason

In a sense, my concern is the opposite of the convener’s, because I wonder whether the SFC is doing what the Government wants. It seems that the university is drifting somewhat. There is no permanent principal in place. Is the SFC not guilty of being a bit hands-off?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

John Mason

Is the SFC moving fast enough?