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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 April 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities and Colleges Funding 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Graeme Dey

I think that I am meeting Unite very shortly. I met the Educational Institute of Scotland Further Education Lecturers’ Association, EIS-FELA, last week. That is all in the pipeline.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities and Colleges Funding 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Graeme Dey

I recognise that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities and Colleges Funding 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Graeme Dey

The £26 million was only for 2023-24—that was what was on the table. The other thing that I should say is that since 2012-13, the actual resource budget afforded to colleges has increased by over £168 million in cash terms. I recognise the pressures that colleges will have faced over that period, but the budget has increased.

Demand has increased, too, and inflation is putting pressure on everything else that we know about. That is why the exercise that we are currently engaged in with the colleges is so important. It is looking at how we make them more sustainable, and I assure you that that is what is driving the discussions.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities and Colleges Funding 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Graeme Dey

Mr Doris, I cannot sit here today and say that there will be Barnett consequentials or more money available, let alone that, if such became available, it could be recurring over the next two, three, four or five years. It would be impossible to say that. What I can say to you is that, from our perspective—and contrary to how they might be feeling right now, given what has happened—colleges are very much at the heart of what we are planning for the coming years. Where it is at all possible, we will look to support them to that end through the budget.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities and Colleges Funding 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Graeme Dey

Let us deal in facts. In 2021-22, there were 322,332 enrolments at Scottish colleges—an increase of 16 per cent since 2019-20. Colleges delivered 129,559 full-time-equivalent places, which is an increase of 0.5 per cent since 2020-21. A substantial amount of money is put into colleges for student support—£135 million is maintained—because of the very poverty challenges that you are talking about. We have directed a lot of that funding to students from the poorer areas, but my point with regard to funding—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities and Colleges Funding 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Graeme Dey

I want to answer the central point. It is not a case of the Government or me passing the buck. Part of the fine work that this committee has done was its report on attainment funding. The additional moneys that were provided to tackle those issues were very much welcomed by the committee and the wider Parliament. That money has to come from somewhere.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities and Colleges Funding 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Graeme Dey

Yes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities and Colleges Funding 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Graeme Dey

Should the board be abolished, I think that it would be reasonable to assume that there would be some residual spend on, say, tapering-off costs, but, if such a decision were to be taken, it would be with a view to maximising the moneys that are available to colleges.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities and Colleges Funding 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Graeme Dey

To be clear—[Interruption.] Sorry, convener.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities and Colleges Funding 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Graeme Dey

Mr Doris, the decision has not been taken. When it is, I will write to the committee in full, giving as much detail as I possibly can. You will appreciate that, at the moment, no such decision has been taken.