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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 16 September 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Kevin Stewart

I am glad to hear about the engagement, but I am one of those folks who disna like to see the reinvention of the wheel. We must look at best practice to ensure that the secondary legislation and guidance are right.

The Government, along with Fife Council and third sector partners, ran a pilot scheme at Queen Margaret hospital that applied trauma-informed practice. It was extremely successful in housing folk, and it dramatically changed the way in which health service staff, including doctors and nurses, worked with people. Protocols were in place for that pilot. Have we looked at them and are we going to apply them to the secondary legislation and the guidance, or are we going to ignore them?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Kevin Stewart

I get that point about co-design, co-production and co-operation but, with regard to scrutiny, there comes a point where, if a body is not doing what it needs to be doing—such as adhering to the SHORE standards—there has to be a way of holding that body accountable. How are you holding the Prison Service accountable for not reaching the standards?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Kevin Stewart

Gentlemen, do you have anything to add to that?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Kevin Stewart

I want to go off at a tangent here.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Kevin Stewart

Would the sector be supportive of the Scottish Government’s battle with the UK Treasury to get longer-term funding to achieve that?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 June 2024

Kevin Stewart

You have heard all this from me before, minister, and I am sorry to cut across you. I recognise that the issue falls into different portfolios. I get all of that. However, you made a very specific statement about making sure that legislation and regulation are embedded in order to get this right. If you cannot answer today, it would be useful for the committee to receive a response on the actions that are being taken in the here and now to get this right for victims.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 June 2024

Kevin Stewart

Good morning to the minister and his team. The bill is an extremely important piece of legislation and I am sure that everyone wants to make it successful. To do so will be a tribute to Marion Gibbs, who worked in the civil service on homelessness for a very long time. A fitting tribute to her would be to get this absolutely right.

Minister, you talked about the prevention review group and about engaging and continuing to talk with stakeholders—listening, of course, being as important as talking. However, one thing that you cannot do is legislate for cultural change. In the short time that I have been back on the committee, we have heard from some folk that a culture change is required. How will you ensure that, as well as making legislative and regulatory change, you change cultures so that we get this right for people?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 June 2024

Kevin Stewart

Speaking to people is fine, and listening to people is important, but doing so does not necessarily mean change.

I want to ask about cross-Government working, because the issue is covered by a lot of portfolios. What do you have in place at the moment, beyond the likes of the prevention review group? What do you have at a ministerial, cross-Government level to make sure that all of this works?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 June 2024

Kevin Stewart

Convener, I do not want to speak for the committee, but it would be interesting to see what has been on the agenda at those meetings and what actions have been taken.

My final question is about buy-in and the change of culture. Many of the relevant bodies in the bill fall under other ministers’ portfolios. With regard to engagement thus far, have other ministers asked those bodies how they intend to make changes to fulfil the duties that will come in if the bill is passed?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 June 2024

Kevin Stewart

I am going to try to pin you down, minister. At one point, in answer to Marie McNair, you said that we must ensure that legislation and regulation are embedded. What are you doing to ensure that legislation and regulation are embedded and that folk comply with legislation, in order to help those victims?