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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 3 December 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Kevin Stewart

Does anyone else want to come in? I see that Professor Roy’s mic has come on.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Kevin Stewart

I will leave it there. Thank you, convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Kevin Stewart

You gave the example of concessionary fares. If the Government came up with an assumption of how much that policy is going to cost in 2040, I imagine that there would be arguments galore around what the true cost would be. All kinds of things will come into play. What is the bus fleet at that particular point in time? What investment has been made? Has the fleet been completely decarbonised? The list goes on. No matter what figure Government came up with for that, there would be an argument for almost everyone that it would be wrong. Is that not the case?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Kevin Stewart

The oil and gas situation is very interesting. The North Sea is a declining basin. One of the major difficulties in all of this is saying, as Dr Dixon did there, that even if the use of oil and gas is not in your control, you should be dealing with it anyway, which I think is a bit nonsensical.

We also have to realise that there will be a continued need for oil and gas in years to come. Does Dr Dixon think that it would be better for us to continue extraction from the North Sea to meet the demands, or does he think that it would be better to import liquefied natural gas from the likes of Qatar or other regimes, at a much greater carbon cost?

In all of this, what is sadly lacking—and this is entirely down to the UK Government—is a strategy on energy security and assessments of what the needs will be and, of course, the carbon outcomes. It would be a bit daft, and it would blow everything out of the water, if we were to create an even greater carbon footprint by importing lots of oil and gas from elsewhere.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Kevin Stewart

I know that this is a statutory instrument, convener, but I just wonder whether the Scottish Government is the right body to write to. At the end of the day, this is UK legislation.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Kevin Stewart

How granular should all this be?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Kevin Stewart

That is the UK Government, which is in charge of those strategies at the moment, of course with input from the Scottish Government.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Kevin Stewart

Professor Roy, would you like to comment?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Kevin Stewart

It was mentioned earlier that investing in net zero is the ultimate case for preventative spend—I am sorry, but I cannot remember who it was who said that. As we move forward, will the Fiscal Commission take an in-depth look at preventative spending and at what that can achieve on our route to net zero?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Kevin Stewart

I want to come back to Ms Wharmby. You said earlier that providing granular cost and benefit assessments is almost impossible, and yet, just a few minutes ago, you wanted an assessment of costs and benefits for every single household, taking into account whether they have a car or not. Which is it? In your opinion, are granular cost and benefit assessments impossible or possible?