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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Kevin Stewart
The SFF has suggested that the bill as drafted creates a huge amount of legal uncertainty. Are you willing, at a future stage, to accept amendments that will provide a defence for operators of permitted, licensed or consented activities?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Kevin Stewart
You mentioned the RRA. It provides for certain defences. Do you not think that your bill should act in a similar manner in that regard?
The fear and legal uncertainty that some organisations express is not necessarily because they think that they are doing anything wrong at the moment that would lead to ecocide but because some future scientific discovery might show that something that they did over a long period might have caused difficulties. Those folks are quite worried about the unknowns. That is a genuine worry; it is not a blockage for the sake of blockage.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Kevin Stewart
It is not great that we are dealing with the LCM in this manner and that, once again, the UK Government seems to be riding roughshod over devolved competences. It would be much better overall if this was an independent Parliament deciding on this as a whole, as an international signatory—
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Kevin Stewart
This is a Parliament—
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Kevin Stewart
I am sorry convener, but this is a Parliament and we have politics—
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Kevin Stewart
I am suggesting, convener, that you should point out to me where, under standing orders, you feel that my question is inappropriate.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Kevin Stewart
We will come to consenting bodies, including planning authorities, in a little while, but first I am asking about the operator viewpoints. We heard from the likes of NFU Scotland, the Scottish Fishermen’s Federation and others that they have concerns about the fact that the bill could cover activities that have been consented to, permitted or licensed. Perhaps we could deal with the operators first, if you do not mind, and then we can come to the individual consenting bodies.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Kevin Stewart
Convener, before we move into private session, I would like to make a point of clarification, please. I have had a look at chapter 12 of standing orders, which is on committee procedures. Earlier, you said that politics should be left at the door of the committee room, which I thought was rather a strange phrase to say in a Parliament, including in a parliamentary committee. There is nothing in standing orders—in chapter 12, on committee procedures—that says that that is the case. Will you please reflect on what you said earlier in your decision to close me down for asking what I think was a relevant question?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Kevin Stewart
It is not me who has to be convinced on that but them.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Kevin Stewart
A lot of the evidence has suggested that stronger enforcement of the existing law is as important as, if not more important than, creating a new offence. At any point did you consider strengthening section 40 of the RRA? At any point did you think that one of the ways of putting ecocide on the statute book would be through an amendment to the existing act?