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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 April 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Gordon MacDonald

Does anybody else want to come in?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Gordon MacDonald

Is there a need for foreign workers?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Gordon MacDonald

Gordon, to achieve this ambitious project that would deliver for Scotland, what additional skills would we need? What do you guys need for certainty?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Gordon MacDonald

We already have the energy hub in Aberdeen and the north-east and we have touched on oil and gas, offshore wind and wave technology and so on. However, I want to continue with questions about hydrogen.

Paul de Leeuw said earlier that there was £200 billion of investment available, with £100 billion already placed. Some of that £100 billion has been spent in places such as China, America, Chile and Germany, but there is no mention of the UK. Meanwhile, the top 10 producers of green hydrogen are forecast to be the countries that I have mentioned as well as Morocco, Canada and Egypt—again, no mention of the UK. How attractive is Scotland—or, indeed, the UK—to green hydrogen investors?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Gordon MacDonald

Suzanne, you said earlier that we need certainty and a clear road map to get the investment we require. Does either the Scottish Government or the UK Government have to do anything else to get us to the point that Paul de Leeuw has described?

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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Gordon MacDonald

The call has been about what the Scottish Government should do. I am saying that in the oil and gas industry in the UK—whether the split is 50/50 or the UK Government’s figure of 36 per cent is right—a lot of the workers in oil and gas are not in Scotland, but are elsewhere. What is the UK Government doing to tackle problems that face the energy industry?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Gordon MacDonald

I apologise for being late to the committee this morning, which was due to the traffic. Much of what I was going to ask about has been touched on. However, I want to ask a couple of specific questions, the first of which goes to John Boland.

A couple of times, you have mentioned the need for a universal training passport so that people can come from the oil and gas industry into—predominantly—offshore wind. Can you give us an idea of the cost for somebody who is trying to make the transition without the universal training passport?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Gordon MacDonald

Given that we already produce more electricity than we can use in Scotland, we have the capability to export that electricity or use it for hydrogen production. We are already one step ahead, in the sense that we have that surplus. The potential to export to Germany was mentioned earlier—I am thinking of the HyLion project that the Scottish Government has announced. How do we get investors interested, given that we have the energy hub, this excess of wind-generated electricity and a potential project to export hydrogen to Germany in liquid form?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Gordon MacDonald

Does anybody else want to come in on that? Maggie?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Gordon MacDonald

Thank you very much.