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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 April 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Gordon MacDonald

Good morning. You might be pleased to know that I will not ask you about data. I want to ask about some of the points that were made in the report “Just Transition for Workers and Communities in Aberdeen and Aberdeenshire: Rapid Evidence Review”. Section 4.6 is titled “Lack of local control”. It says:

“during the key early years of North Sea development ‘the goal of local capability-building was a secondary consideration’.”

Later in that section, it says:

“In its early phase ... oil development was dominated by externally owned companies.”

What lessons should we learn from the early days of the oil industry to ensure that we achieve a just transition? Why is local control important?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Bankruptcy and Diligence (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Gordon MacDonald

I also want to raise the issue of the discharge of trustees. Currently, there is no automatic discharge. Where a debtor is either uncontactable, unco-operative or just cannot be found, that can result in a trustee being in post indefinitely. If the trustee is an insolvency practitioner, it can mean that there are on-going charges that eat into the money that is available for creditors. Both the Institute of Chartered Accountants of Scotland and the Insolvency Practitioners Association have called for a solution to the issue. What is the Government’s view on the automatic discharge of trustees?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Bankruptcy and Diligence (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Gordon MacDonald

The other issue that came up was extending the timescales for serving a bankruptcy petition, where it is difficult to find the debtor or the person lives quite far away from the central belt, where a lot of the sheriff officers are based. Is that something that the Government is looking at?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Bankruptcy and Diligence (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Gordon MacDonald

James Clelland, do you have anything to add?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Bankruptcy and Diligence (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Gordon MacDonald

A number of issues about bankruptcy reform have come up during the committee’s stage 1 inquiry into the bill.

The first relates to minimal asset process bankruptcy. A number of organisations, including Citizens Advice Scotland, have called for that to happen more regularly. Currently, a person can apply for that form of bankruptcy once every 10 years, but there has been a suggestion that that should be reduced to once every five years, in line with the limit for full administrative bankruptcy. What is the Government’s view on that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Gordon MacDonald

We are often told that Scotland has two Governments. Whose responsibility would it be to encourage that manufacturing? Who has the levers that would encourage the manufacturing of offshore wind turbines and so on?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Economic Activity of Public Bodies (Overseas Matters) Bill

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Gordon MacDonald

Thank you very much.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Economic Activity of Public Bodies (Overseas Matters) Bill

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Gordon MacDonald

Morning, minister. On Murdo Fraser’s point, I remind folk that the Conservative Government in the 1980s tried to stop boycotts against apartheid South Africa. We should remember that.

Amnesty International, in its evidence to the UK Parliament, highlights that Scotland is attempting to

“use the leverage of public procurement to incentivise companies to behave sustainably with regard to human rights, labour rights and the environment.”

Similarly, Human Rights Watch said that, if the bill comes into operation,

“The effect could be to hamper these groups from taking steps in business dealings to avoid causing or contributing to human rights abuses and international crimes.”

The Local Government Association in England has raised concerns, and Universities UK has raised concerns about freedom of speech and so on. My question to you is this: what would be the potential impact on the procurement policy or pension fund investment decisions of councils or universities if this bill were to become law?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Gordon MacDonald

During the transition period, which will go on for a reasonably long time, especially since the UK Government has made available more licences for oil and gas, we will have to juggle the need for workers in the oil and gas industry for the next 10 or 20 years with the need for workers for offshore wind, which is proving to be successful. We generate surplus electricity in Scotland, which we send south of the border. There is also huge scope for hydrogen.

Colin Beattie touched on the difficulty in attracting enough workers. I am aware that only 36 per cent of workers in the oil and gas industry in the UK are in Scotland. What is the UK Government doing to try to tackle the problem, given that only 36 per cent of oil and gas workers are in Scotland?

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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Gordon MacDonald

My second point is about oil and gas workers’ transferable skills. If they do not have work in the UK, they can go to Gabon, Venezuela or all over the world, and vice versa—people can come here. The Offshore Energies UK report highlighted that in recent years, 27 per cent of EU workers in the North Sea have left and 54 per cent of non-EU workers have left, which is around about 3,000 jobs in total. What needs to change in the UK immigration system to attract workers so that we can juggle the three balls of offshore wind, oil and gas, and hydrogen?