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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Willie Rennie

This is an evidence session about outdoor learning and residentials, and you do not have the key facts about the progress that the Government has made. Everything that you have provided this morning is valid, but it is all anecdotal about what you have seen. I want to know what the Government has seen over those 14 years, and you do not have that this morning.

We are not making any progress, so let us move on. If the bill is rejected, we would not go back to the position that we were in before. The message that could be sent to local authorities is that outdoor residentials do not matter and are not valued by the Parliament and the Government. How will you respond to that? We are not taking a neutral position because, if the Parliament and the Government reject the bill, there could be ramifications. Some people have said that that could trigger the closure of many more outdoor centres. How would you respond to that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Willie Rennie

I am asking about the vision for outdoor learning, which was a 27-page document that came out in 2010. What has been the impact of that document?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Willie Rennie

That is your personal answer. It is what you say you have seen, but that is not objective evidence; it is anecdotal.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Willie Rennie

Why has that not been done before now?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Willie Rennie

Why was the Scottish outdoor learning strategic working group set up this year?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Willie Rennie

Was there no equivalent group before then?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Willie Rennie

Do we know what impact that strategy has had since 2010? Do we have a timeline of progress?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Willie Rennie

Why was it not set up in 2010, when the vision was set out?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Willie Rennie

That is a whole other debate.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Willie Rennie

Thank you for setting that out succinctly. That was helpful.

At the end of the day, this comes down to priorities. In some ways, of course, it is a question of money, but there is money there. The issue is how we spend it. People have said today that it is important that we provide residential outdoor education opportunities, but is it very important that we do that? Is it more important than the other things that we are doing?

Tara Lillis, do you want to kick off on that? Where does the provision of outdoor education opportunities fit in your priorities?