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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 February 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Willie Rennie

Did you ask for that last year, before 13 November?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Willie Rennie

Time is short, so my final question is this: is the current financial model that has been established by the Scottish Government sustainable?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Willie Rennie

What about students from the rest of the UK?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Willie Rennie

My next question is about alternatives, because your staff say that there is a different way forward. You have set out this morning, principal, that £49 million will be required in one way or another. The bulk of what you do requires staff, so the main costs are for them. Is there any way of avoiding the 632-plus figure—whatever the actual number is—in any staff reduction? Is an alternative possible? When you say that you are interested in alternatives, are you really?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Willie Rennie

It sounds quite threatening when you say that the university might not exist. Is that the kind of approach that we should adopt?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Willie Rennie

I have a final, quick question. Is the Kirkcaldy campus under threat?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Willie Rennie

Principal, you or your colleague referred earlier to a modest increase in home student fees. However, those fees are cross-subsidised by international students, and if the international student numbers stay as low as they are, then is it not a greater cost to bring those students in? I suppose that I am leading to my question about the wider financial model in Scotland: is your recovery dependent on a changed model for the finances of universities as a whole?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Willie Rennie

We know that you are restricted in what you can say, but my concern is that, in a year’s time, we may be back here with another institution—perhaps not in exactly the same circumstances—and that you will regret not raising the alarm to ministers about the current funding model. Although you are restricted in what you can say, you know exactly what is going on in our institutions, and we all know that the threats and headwinds are enormous.

My concern is that everybody is tiptoeing around this when, in fact, we need to have an open discussion about a more sustainable model, because if we carry on as we are, we may end up with more cases that are not exactly like Dundee, but are pretty much like it—and the workers who lose their jobs will feel exactly the same as those in Dundee. So, if you are not prepared to tell us the exact situation today, I hope that you are telling ministers in private, because they need to fully understand the consequences of their inaction. I do not expect an answer.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Willie Rennie

I am curious about the lost month. If you had indicated to the SFC—and, I presume, to the Scottish Government, too—that you had requested the £22 million, why did it take so long for the £10 million and then the other £15 million to arrive? You had made it clear what you required. Why was a month lost?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Willie Rennie

But we know the time that it takes to secure support from the banks and to put in place the severance package that has been indicated. Surely we are talking about a lost month in which you could have progressed with negotiations to secure the package and get on with relieving some of the pain.