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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Willie Rennie

If the minister says, “Before stage 1”, I would just say yes.

I have expressed quite clear support for the Withers review and the process in Parliament, and I have been overwhelmed by two things: the strength of opposition to, and the timidity of support for, the bill. The minister will have seen and heard the evidence sessions; in summary, it was said in evidence that the bill is a costly distraction from the challenges that are ahead and potentially breaks the relationship with employers. The convener has covered that point, and you might wish to come back on it, but I just wanted to state my summary of the evidence.

I want to focus on something a bit different. Can the Scottish Funding Council cope with this change? When the previous interim chief executive, now chief operating officer, came before the committee, he was less than convincing; in fact, he had to write to us again to clarify what he should have said at the meeting. Not so long ago, he was in charge of the SFC. We have had the crisis at the University of Dundee, to which we still do not have a resolution, and universities and colleges throughout Scotland are facing financial problems. Can that organisation cope? The minister says that it will be a new organisation, but is the SFC capable of creating a new organisation with all of that going on?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Willie Rennie

The truth is that the SFC did not spot anything.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Willie Rennie

I do not want to get into the depths of this, but I would just point out that the SFC did not see Dundee coming, and it has missed the opportunity in many other problem areas.

The apprenticeship funding will be dwarfed by college and university funding. Can we be confident that, when the spotlight is off, the leadership of the organisation will treat apprenticeships with the priority that they deserve and which they currently get within SDS?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Willie Rennie

The spotlight on you will be off, too.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Willie Rennie

That confidence was not unqualified, though. I am paraphrasing, but Mr Grice said that that has yet to be determined—or something to that effect. His confidence was not unbridled.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Willie Rennie

That might touch on one of the solutions. Partly, our amendments are trying to remove the ability to delay, because that exacerbates the problem. I do not know whether that is what the cabinet secretary is thinking about as a solution to the problem.

I will conclude at that point, because I am keen to hear what the minister has to say.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Meghan Gallacher and Fulton MacGregor have set out the case in relation to the problem that churches and religious groups are not natural persons but are groups of people, which means that the bulk of the criteria that have been set out do not apply to them. My amendment 452 seeks to include all religious groups, rather than only the Church of Scotland, as Meghan Gallacher proposes. Fulton MacGregor’s proposal to include an additional criterion is also a sensible way to solve the problem.

The main problem is that there are manses that are potentially not getting used because congregations and other religious groups fear that they will not be able to get those properties back when they need them. We need to try to solve that problem.

I know that the cabinet secretary will not accept my amendment, although I do not know what she will do with the other amendments. I would like to hear from her what she intends to do about that problem, because it is a real issue, and whether she thinks that section 24 exacerbates the problem. Church of Scotland congregations are fearful about letting out the manses on a short-term basis because they fear that they will not be able to get them back when they need them. I would like to understand what the cabinet secretary and the Government are going to do to improve communication and the application of information.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Willie Rennie

I thank you all for your evidence—it has been helpful.

Nicola Jackson, SDS and the broader skills landscape have been quite extensively criticised in recent years, not just in the Withers review but, prior to that, in the Audit Scotland report in 2022. What is your response to the comments in those reports? Everybody is quite cautious about, or critical of, at least the process, if not the principle.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Willie Rennie

I am making no criticism of individuals.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Does anybody else want to answer?