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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 22 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Willie Rennie

That is not new income. We are talking about new income. Where does that come from?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Willie Rennie

Let me be clear. Ministers are basing the budget on the premise that we will secure new income so that, instead of having a big decline in job numbers, we will have a lower decline—cuts—and then we will be able to grow the institution through new income.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Willie Rennie

Which one are you saying that it is?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Willie Rennie

No. They said to me very clearly that there is an opportunity to secure new income to prevent those additional 300 job losses, which is the difference between the recovery plan and what they want to do. That is why they have provided the state funding. Ministers said that the transition period will allow the institution to develop a plan to create new income that will launch it into greater times—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Willie Rennie

That is a good thing. The institution’s independence needs to be maintained so that the people who are running it are in charge of the strategy.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Willie Rennie

Has the SFC been straight with you about what that figure is?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Willie Rennie

So, as the representatives from the SFC did earlier, you are steering away from new income. Are we just kicking the can down the road? Is that what is happening here? We are talking about 18 months or two years, and the clock is ticking. If we have no vision of any clear, tangible sources of income with margin, are we just kicking the can down the road? Will there be more job losses—which, conveniently, will come after the election?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Willie Rennie

No, I get all that—it is a great place and we have got to keep it—but my question is about providing certainty for those members of staff who have a cloud hanging over their heads. I have had members of staff in tears on the doorstep, because of the indecision since last November. The university is now on its third principal; we still lack a finalised recovery plan and a vision; and the staff are in distress. Good people will go unless we get certainty. My real concern is that the Government is just kicking the can down the road.

Therefore, my follow-up question is this: if we are back here in 18 months to two years, without a new source of income, and we have not closed the gap between income and expenditure, will the Government step in again? How long is this blank cheque going to be written for?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Willie Rennie

Okay. Dr Stephen?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Willie Rennie

You have read what the Educational Institute of Scotland has said. It is worried that, if you put this on a statutory footing, staff and teachers will just withdraw because they are fearful of stepping over a line that will move.