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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 January 2026
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Edward Mountain

You will not be surprised by my question. I refer you to page 77 of annex 3 of the draft CCP, which says that there is a Government commitment to produce 258,000 hectares of new woodland by 2040. You have told us that there needs to be confidence in the market to achieve that target. I suggest that the Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2025 and the Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill might muddy the water—that is certainly the evidence that we heard.

Based on the figures that you suggest, and adding a small proportion of uplift, to achieve the Government’s planting figure of 258,000 hectares, it will need to invest at least £880 million. That is based on today’s figures. Given that costs might rise, we are probably looking at closer to £1.2 billion. Could you tell me where I will find that investment? According to the table on page 78 of annex 3, it is all good news; there are no costs. Are you confident that the plan is properly financed? A yes or no answer will do, as the convener is short of time.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Edward Mountain

If not pump-priming it. The Government is not making a commitment in the climate change plan; all that it is committed to doing is spending £250 million between now and 2030, of which it had already spent £45 million at the end of 2023. I do not have the latest figures, as I cannot get them. We are way off target. The natural capital market will not invest in something if there is no certainty. You are not giving me certainty and I am not seeing it in the draft plan. Please try to give me certainty so that I can understand that the climate change plan is deliverable.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Edward Mountain

My final question is this: do you believe that the costings produced by the Government in the draft climate change plan are actually believable? A yes or no answer will do me.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Edward Mountain

I will take that as a no.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Edward Mountain

The plan does not come up with a cost per hectare; it just sets out the net cost for the whole plan period as £340 million. I suggest to you that the actual cost may be in excess of £700 million. I am wondering how much money is involved. Where is it in the climate change plan? Where do you understand it to be? What gives you the confidence to support the Government in saying that the natural capital market will come up with the additional money? There is no natural capital market for peatland at the moment, although there might be for forestry. Where is the confidence? Where does the plan stack up financially? That is my question to you, Peter.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Edward Mountain

Different question; good pivot.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Edward Mountain

In the interest of time, I will take all those answers as no.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Edward Mountain

I am sure that most committee members will have heard me make this declaration before, but I will say now, for the avoidance of any doubt, that I am a member of a family farming partnership in Moray. We farm about 500 acres, or 202 hectares. I am also a tenant on exactly the same area in Moray.

Just to be clear, we have no peatland on the farm, although we do have trees, some of which have received grants in the past under the woodland grant scheme 3.

I hope that that is a sufficient declaration and saves any dubiety.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Edward Mountain

I have enjoyed listening to this discussion on the climate change plan.

I would like to drag the witnesses back to page 82 in annex 3, which deals with the costs—you have, no doubt, looked at it. The net costs of the climate change proposals for peatland do not even meet 50 per cent of what the actual costs will be. Can you explain what the actual costs will be to reach the Government’s target of 400,000 hectares of peatland restoration by 2040? Perhaps you could give me that figure, Peter, on a cumulative basis—based on interest, not on today’s rate of £1,000 a hectare, which the Government is working on. That is just so that people in Scotland understand what the real cost is going to be.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Edward Mountain

With respect, that is a politician’s answer. I am looking for a yes or no answer. Are you confident that the plan that is laid out by the Government is properly financed, and can you see the finance in that plan? Yes or no?