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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 January 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Decisions on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Edward Mountain

Good morning, and welcome to the first meeting of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee in 2026. Our first item of business is a decision on taking items 2 and 4 in private. Item 2 is consideration of a draft report on the legislative consent memorandum for the Biodiversity Beyond National Jurisdictions Bill. Item 4 is consideration of the evidence on the draft climate change plan that we will hear today, as well as the evidence that we heard at our previous meeting, when we ran out of time. Do members agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Decisions on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Edward Mountain

It looks like our only items of business next week will be consideration of two draft reports. For the convenience of the official report and the broadcasting unit, I ask now whether we agree to take those items in private next week and, if necessary, in future meetings, every time they come up. One of those items is the Ecocide (Scotland) Bill. Monica Lennon is the member in charge of that bill, and on a precautionary reading of the standing orders, I ask Monica to recuse herself from the decision on that.

Do members agree to take the draft report on the Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill LCM and any supplementary LCMs in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Decisions on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Edward Mountain

We are happy. We will move into private until around 9 am.

08:36 Meeting continued in private.  

09:05 Meeting continued in public.  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Edward Mountain

I will put the same question to you, Gary.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Edward Mountain

I am sorry—I have one further question. I was interested in your comment that electric HGVs cost double the price of normal ones. We are talking about a cost of in excess of £300,000, compared with perhaps £150,000. Once you get your electric HGV, every time you finish using it, you will have a huge amount of downtime while it is charged back up. Are electric HGVs a pipe dream at the moment, and is the use of drop-in fuels a better approach, as the deputy convener suggested?

11:00  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Edward Mountain

Well, that is the assessment. I am trying to work out where the figures come from, as somebody who is interested in figures and how they come about. How much of the £12.9 billion that is needed is the industry going to come up with?

Lamech Solomon, I cannot hear you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Edward Mountain

I understand your aspirations in that respect, but we are looking at a plan that has been put to us by the Government to see whether it meets Scotland’s aspiration to reach net zero by 2045. However, we will certainly bear in mind what you have said.

Iain, do you want to answer the question? Given that we have plateaued and are not going any further, do you think that the pathway in the climate change plan is sufficient?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Edward Mountain

That is you out of time. I apologise to you and to Kim Pratt, but I must be fair to Bob Doris and Douglas Lumsden. Bob, you have five minutes.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Edward Mountain

That is a neat move to the deputy convener with his questions on the subject.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Edward Mountain

Does somebody want to give an answer on that? Just one person, please.