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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 April 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

Good morning, and welcome to the 12th meeting in 2025 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. The first item of business is a decision on whether to take item 5—consideration of the evidence that we will hear from Environmental Standards Scotland—in private. Are we all agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

If we look ahead at some of the areas in which you will have to do more work next year, I take it that resources are fine—that there is plenty of money and you are not stuck for staff to make that work.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

Mark ruffled his brow when I said that there was enough money, so I am interested in hearing his comments.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

Will you remind everyone how big your team is?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

I want to come back with a couple of other questions, if I may. On the climate change plan, you say in paragraph 6 of your letter that it is really important that all the departments speak to each other and that there is a clear plan across the

“Government, public bodies and local authorities”.

That is a huge amount to ask for before September, is it not? Will the plan cascade all of that down?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

The effectiveness of a tiered regime is all down to people knowing and understanding the general binding rules, so that they can comply with them. Are you going to publicise those? How will you make them known? For example, I did not know that there were general binding rules on matters such as hot tubs. How will typical small businesses and households become aware of them? I do not have a hot tub, but, if I did, and there were rules regarding it, how would you let me know?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

I am sure that those people with hot tubs will be rushing to find out what the general binding rules are for them, but my question is a serious one. Have you allowed for some money to advertise the changes and to promulgate them to people who might not necessarily pick up on them? For example, someone with a small holiday let might not know about regulations on hot tubs. What money has been put aside to make sure that everyone understands the GBRs? If they do not, the tiered system will not work.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

Mark Ruskell has a question on this issue and then some follow-up questions on another subject.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

The upper 30s—okay.

The next questions are from Douglas Lumsden.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Edward Mountain

Mark, you wrote to the committee on 21 March in response to our letter regarding the climate change plan, and I just want to pick up on a couple of the points in that letter.

The second paragraph notes that the previous climate change plan was agreed to in the dying days—for lack of a better description—of the previous session of Parliament, prior to the May 2021 election, with the plan being agreed to without amendment in March 2021. You felt that that was unsatisfactory, but it looks as though we will be in the same position again. We will receive comments on the climate change plan from the Climate Change Committee in May and will go through the procedure up until Christmas. If I was a betting man, which I am not, I would probably say that we will not agree the climate change plan until March next year, which will be just before the next election. Are you happy that we will be back where we were before?