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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 April 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Edward Mountain

Since 2014—that is even longer. So there we go; we are into 10 years of long and protracted negotiations.

I am looking around to see whether there are any other committee members with questions.

As there are not, I go to Sue Webber. Good morning, Sue.

10:45  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Edward Mountain

There are just a couple of final questions from me. Kevin Hobbs, there has been discussion about a member of CMAL who was employed by Ferguson Marine and how that was funded. Specifically, the operations officer was transferred across, I think—or was he still paid? I am talking about Andy Crossan. Will you explain that to me? I am not sure that I followed what the Auditor General for Scotland said about that or what has happened.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Edward Mountain

Was that agreement to pay money to a company?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Edward Mountain

Where is Andy Crossan now?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Edward Mountain

Did he end his secondment or did Ferguson Marine end it?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Edward Mountain

He came back to you and then retired.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Edward Mountain

My final question is for Jim Anderson. I accept Kevin Stewart’s point that we have ended up with a better boat than we had before in terms of serving Arran. However, as I understand it, we now have a heavier ship that is carrying less cargo and fewer passengers—although it is able to carry more cargo and passengers than it normally does, but that would mean that it would sit deeper in the water, which would mean that it could not get into other harbours—and is using more fuel, with a greater carbon output. Is that an accurate summary, or have I got that wrong?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Edward Mountain

Not completely.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Great British Energy Bill

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Edward Mountain

I accept that. I am trying to make it clear that the committee wants and needs proper time to consider the matter. Even if you are happy to give consent, there is a procedure to go through. Part of the reason for having this evidence session today is that I am slightly frightened, as I guess the rest of the committee will be, that we might get bounced, given that the bill is making such quick progress through the UK Parliament.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Edward Mountain

Good morning and welcome to the first meeting in 2025 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. The first item on the agenda is a decision on taking items 4 and 5 in private. Item 4 is consideration of the evidence on ferry services in Scotland. Item 5 is consideration of the evidence on the legislative consent memorandum on the Great British Energy Bill. Do we agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.