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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 January 2026
Edward Mountain
You had a lot of questions, Sarah, and I am not sure that we will get through them all. As I am conscious of the time, I will move to Douglas Lumsden, unless there is a specific question that you want to ask or that you feel is not sufficiently answered for you to move on.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 January 2026
Edward Mountain
Just to clarify, if the entitlement is removed, you are removing the young person’s ability to get to education. Is that what you are saying?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 January 2026
Edward Mountain
That is what you just said.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 January 2026
Edward Mountain
Just to push the point so that I fully understand it, if a young person uses Lothian Buses, for example, to go to school, and he or she has had their concessionary travel removed, they can walk or cycle but they are not allowed to use the bus to go to school. That seems bizarre.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 January 2026
Edward Mountain
They cannot use their travel card; they just have to pay their money. That does not protect bus users from being abused.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 January 2026
Edward Mountain
According to procedure, minister, it is up to you to speak to the motion and to say at this stage whether you will move it or not move it. I am just looking at the clerks and that is correct: at this stage, it is up to you, not the committee, to make recommendations. I can make some comments on behalf of the committee if you decide not to move it.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 January 2026
Edward Mountain
Minister, thank you for making that decision. As convener of the committee, I say to you that there is no doubt that committee members accept the need for the legislation, and I believe that the committee will empower me to work with you to ensure that what can be done is done to allow you to bring the matter back as soon as possible, so that we can fully understand the proposals. I give you that assurance, and I thank you for making your position clear this morning.
I briefly suspend the meeting to allow a changeover of witnesses.
10:28
Meeting suspended.
10:31
On resuming—
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 January 2026
Edward Mountain
Well, yes, but I ask you to be mindful that other committee members want to come in.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 January 2026
Edward Mountain
Adam Berman has been waiting quietly in the wings while John Underhill held the stage, so I will briefly bring him in.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 January 2026
Edward Mountain
Okay. I will go to John Underhill briefly and ask him whether there are really going to be no costs and no benefits. After all, if we talk about just transition and everyone legs it elsewhere, they are, I presume, going to take their tax with them, which means that there might be a bit of a cost. Do you agree with the zero figures in that table, John?