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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 20 February 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Edward Mountain

I am just looking around the room—I see no other member wanting to comment. I will comment and then go to the minister. I say at the start that I will not take any interventions.

I have been a convener in the Parliament for nine years and I have sat through the consideration of numerous SSIs during that time. I have been supportive of a lot of them, and I have not been supportive of some of them. In those nine years, there is only one SSI that has come back after it was rejected, with the motion not moved the first time because it was quite clear that the policy behind it was immature and not properly thought out. It has happened only one time—with this order.

We waited and were told that a draft code of conduct would come to the committee. The draft code of conduct was submitted with a letter from the minister. I have to say that the draft code of conduct, as produced to this committee, is poor in content and unhelpful in a lot of respects, because it raises more questions than it answers. I was extremely grateful for the input of the deputy convener and Kevin Stewart in explaining to the committee some of the things that the minister was unable to explain.

I want the order to be approved, and I will vote for the motion on the basis that I agree with the principle of the order. Do I think that it is ready to be implemented? No, I do not. If the order is approved, it must be implemented by 24 March. That allows the Government 28 working days to come up with a code of conduct that works well and is able to support the order. Do I believe that that can happen? No, I do not.

I have to say—and it is really sad that I have to say this—that in my time in the Parliament, the consideration of this order has proved to be the most difficult thing to convene, and it has perhaps shown the Parliament at its worst when it comes to dealing with SSIs. Those are strong words, and I do not say them lightly.

Minister, I will come to you now, if you would like to comment.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Edward Mountain

Mr Lumsden, I will try to steer a way through this so that I can understand it myself.

Minister, the draft code of conduct that you submitted with your letter says that acting

“in a way that hurts or threatens others”

could result in the loss of entitlement to free travel.

Let us take a step back, if I may, minister. If somebody is hurt by a person who is entitled to concessionary travel, the person who did that would be in contravention of your draft code of conduct. Is that right?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Edward Mountain

Could you confirm whether suspending free travel could be done for the entire duration of the concessionary pass if the hurt were sufficiently serious?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Edward Mountain

Thank you for clarifying that. The word that I was looking for was “permanent”—that it could be a permanent removal if the offence were considered serious enough.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Edward Mountain

I think that that would be helpful. Percentage figures often hide the true cost. We are talking about £4 million. It might be only 1 per cent, but £4 million is £4 million of anyone’s money. It is a huge amount of money to me.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Edward Mountain

Are you nodding at that, minister?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

NatureScot (Annual Report and Accounts and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Edward Mountain

The second item of business is an evidence session with NatureScot. This is a general check-in with the body about its annual report and corporate plan and strategic outlook. I think that we now have the right one, which was clarified on Friday.

I welcome to the meeting Nick Halfhide, the chief executive officer, and Professor Pete Higgins, board member, NatureScot. Thank you for attending this morning. I congratulate you, Nick, on your appointment as chief executive. It is your first appearance before us since your appointment. I would like to say that I hope that you enjoy it, but I hope that it will be rewarding for us and for you.

Nick, you are going to make a brief opening statement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Edward Mountain

Mark Ruskell, please make your question short.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Edward Mountain

I invite the committee to delegate authority to me as convener to approve a draft report for publication.

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Edward Mountain

Item 5 is a debate on motion S6M-20799, which calls the committee to recommend that the draft National Bus Travel Concession Schemes (Miscellaneous Amendment) (Scotland) Order 2026 be approved. The order relates to concessionary travel and the removal of passes.

Motion moved,

That the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee recommends that the National Bus Travel Concession Schemes (Miscellaneous Amendment) (Scotland) Order 2026 [draft] be approved.—[Jim Fairlie]