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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 April 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

We have about 15 minutes of this session left. Time is always the enemy of the committee, so if we have short answers and short questions, I will be able to get in all the committee members who want to ask questions and not make enemies of them, too. I will just keep time as my enemy.

The next question comes from the deputy convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

We are up against the clock, but I will bring in Rhoda Grant.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

I am going to move on to more open ground and leave trees—which, thankfully, do not cover all of Scotland, yet.

On land management plans, I have a question for Sandra Holmes. Finlay Clark made the point that, sometimes, landowners might not have a controlling interest in the land that they manage—that is, there might be other interests, such as crofting or agricultural tenancies. Would it be appropriate for the land manager to draw up a land management plan if he or she could not affect the outcomes? I am thinking of HIE and its involvement in crofting estates. Although it might want to do something, crofting law still dictates what can and cannot be done.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

I understand that, but it is sometimes quite difficult to get the various parties to agree—the landowner is only a vehicle. One might think of the spaceport that is being developed in Caithness, and whether all the crofters agree with that. Drawing up a land management plan for that estate—I think that it is the Hope and Melness estate—might be quite difficult, because the crofters there do not agree.

My next question is on the Land Commission’s recommendation that the size threshold for having a land management plan be reduced from 3,000 to 1,000 hectares. Sandra and Finlay, do you agree with that? If we were talking about a 1,000-hectare mixed-ownership estate, including tenancies of some description, what would be the actual cost of producing that land management plan? Moray Estates has told us that it would cost £75,000—I think that that was in relation to the Tornagrain investment—while others have said that the cost would be somewhere between £5,000 and £10,000. It could be more. What do you think it would cost, Sandra, given that all HIE personnel who might be contracted to drawing up the plan would be paid in full for their time?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Tara Wight has indicated that she wants to come in.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

I have one techy question—maybe it is too long since I was a surveyor. The Scottish Land Commission has proposed that

“Ministers have the ability to make a fair market value offer”.

That is not a definition that I ever used in my past work. Do you understand what “fair market” means? Is that the same as an open market, or are those two different things, Finlay Clark?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

That is exactly the same. Is that laid down somewhere?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Rob Carlow, if you were out to buy some land for a woodland and you took on a management plan, which you were then forced to abide by, and you had to continue farming for another five years before you could plant your trees, because that was the duration of the plan, would that stop you investing in the land?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

The next question comes from Bob Doris—sorry, Tara has her hand up. Both the deputy convener and I missed that, so we will let her come in briefly.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Thank you. I am sorry that I had to cut you all short. At times, it is very difficult sitting in this chair and cracking the whip, as it were, but I have to let other people in. Thank you very much for coming and giving evidence to the committee this morning.

We will have a brief pause and reconvene at 10.50.

10:38 Meeting suspended.  

10:47 On resuming—