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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 24 December 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Edward Mountain

Before Kevin Stewart asks a supplementary question, I will bring in Ross Haggart. Is SEPA nervous that, although it might be following procedures, it might automatically allow itself to be hit with an ecocide charge if the bill came into force? I would be. Are you?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Edward Mountain

It looks to my brain as though we are getting a bigger stick to replace a stick that we have already but which is not being used properly, because we do not have enough resource. What you are suggesting, Campbell—unless I have got it wrong—is that we resource the use of the stick that we already have before taking up a bigger stick that we will not have the resources to use either.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Edward Mountain

I do not know whether you saw it, Monica, but Clive Mitchell was holding up his hand and indicating that he wanted to come in immediately.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Edward Mountain

I turn to Monica Lennon, in case she has a couple of questions to put to the panel.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Edward Mountain

No—I was honest, and attacked in both directions.

Thank you very much, minister. We now move into private session.

12:32 Meeting continued in private until 12:52.  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Edward Mountain

I am obviously doing this very badly, so I will ask my question again. How will the bill help us to do that? You have not told me how the bill will make what you have set out happen, which is why you are saying that we should agree to a legislative consent motion.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Edward Mountain

I am not sure that I am getting any further, so I will hand over to the deputy convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Edward Mountain

Clive, I warned you that I was coming to you next.

It has been suggested that NatureScot does not have enough powers to investigate potentially severe damage to protected sites or species. Does NatureScot want more powers in the bill, or do you just generally want more powers?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Edward Mountain

I suggest, minister, that it might help you and your officials to reflect on that and perhaps come back to the committee when you have had a chance to do so. It would help us with our consideration of SAF’s role in the climate change plan, and I think that it would be useful to have some considered thought process.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Edward Mountain

I am still struggling to understand this in my mind. We are talking about adding something to the armoury to make up for a deficiency—or a perceived deficiency—when, for 11 years, we have not been using the weapons that we already have to resolve that perceived deficiency. The bill seems like an add-on that is not required. Am I missing something?

Sarah Hendry, you look as though you are about to disagree with me.

09:15