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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 April 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Okay. It is probably fair to say that it is more than 1,000 hectares.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Okay, that will be on the record, and it will be up to the committee members whether they want to take that forward.

Thank you very much for coming to give evidence this morning. We will now move into private session.

12:19 Meeting continued in private until 13:08.  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Is that a yes or a no?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Monica, do you want to follow up?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

You will get a chance to do so, but I am just trying to clarify whether it is more than 1,000 hectares.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Is that the position in the majority of cases? I am sorry, but we have hedged around this for a fair while and I am looking for some clarity, in the same way that I drilled down into the matter when the John Muir Trust was here. It is fine to say, “We manage it, but it’s owned by the Gresham House number 2 account”, but that is not the openness and transparency that I am looking for, so I push you to be a bit clearer on that, please, Rob.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Is it 1 per cent—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

David, I am probably going to help you, having looked at your accounts for 2023, which suggest that the John Muir Trust owns 25,400 hectares of land, although some people say that it is significantly more.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Thank you. Douglas Lumsden, you are up next.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Edward Mountain

You say the area is around that figure. It would be helpful if you could clarify that afterwards, because I think that there is some dubiety.

Monica, do you want to come in?