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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 30 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Adapting to the Impacts of Climate Change

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Edward Mountain

As far as reducing global emissions is concerned, there are much bigger players in the world than the United Kingdom. We have seen a bit of a step change in what China is trying to achieve. What changes, such as those in China, have we seen in the past year?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Adapting to the Impacts of Climate Change

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Edward Mountain

You have said that ambition is one thing and that the reducing costs of some of the technology mean that it is more likely that we will meet our ambition, but the costs at ground level in people’s houses remain stubbornly high, so it is difficult for people to meet those costs. Will that be a challenge? At the latest COP, it was said that, if we do not take everyone with us, we will never succeed. Do you want to elaborate on that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Edward Mountain

The fourth agenda item is consideration of two consent notifications relating to proposed UK statutory instruments. The first is on biocidal products. Under the GB Biocidal Products Regulation, companies must obtain authorisation from the Health and Safety Executive to market biocidal products. Biocidal products are substances or mixtures that are designed to control harmful organisms such as bacteria, viruses, fungi, insects or rodents.

The amendment regulations relate not to the substance of that regulation but to a data protection aspect in it, as outlined in the clerk’s paper. The committee’s role is to decide whether it agrees with the Scottish Government about the proposed change. We can express a view both on whether we agree in principle to the UK Government legislating in the area and on whether we agree with the specific manner in which it proposes to do so.

If we are content for consent to be given, I will write to the Scottish Government accordingly. In writing to the Scottish Government, we of course have the option to draw matters to the Government’s attention, pose questions or ask to be kept updated on particular matters. If the committee is not content with the proposal, it might make one or several recommendations, as outlined in the clerk’s note.

I do not see anyone who wants to express a view, so I will move to the substantive question. Is the committee content that the provision that is set out in the notification should be made in the proposed UK statutory instrument?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Adapting to the Impacts of Climate Change

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Edward Mountain

Of course, the danger in saying that you have the last question is that a committee member can then ask to come in. Mark Ruskell, I will give way to you as long as it is a brief question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Edward Mountain

We are starting the next item slightly later than I anticipated, so I apologise to anyone who has been kept waiting.

Our third item of business is consideration of two statutory instruments, both of which are laid under the negative procedure, which means that they will come into force unless the Parliament agrees to a motion to annul them. No motions to annul have been lodged. The Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee has made no comment on either instrument. I will seek views on each of them in turn.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Edward Mountain

Unless anyone else has any comments on the order, I will make a general comment. Although I have no problem with the order, it would be helpful to know the Government’s position on it and whether, by extending the trading scheme for a further period—which will allow motor manufacturers to trade off progress against the current targets to allow them to achieve their future emissions targets—that will affect progress on electric vehicles.

In general, I agree with the order, so unless the committee has a reason to do otherwise, I propose to write to the Government and ask it to explain that, but then to make no other comment. Are we happy to do that?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Adapting to the Impacts of Climate Change

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Edward Mountain

Douglas Lumsden has some questions next.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Edward Mountain

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the 34th meeting in 2025 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. We have received apologies from Bob Doris, who is attending another committee meeting to move amendments.

Under agenda item 1, we must decide whether to take in private item 5, which is consideration of today’s evidence from the Climate Change Committee, and item 6, which is consideration of our work programme. Do we agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Adapting to the Impacts of Climate Change

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Edward Mountain

Thanks for that opening statement. I will ask a starter question, which is, I guess, an easy one. You have suggested to the UK Government that, by the end of this century, climate change will have outstripped the goals of the Paris agreement and that a 4°C rise is probably more likely. What has made you make that assessment? What is driving that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Adapting to the Impacts of Climate Change

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Edward Mountain

There are a few supplementary questions on this subject. I will go to the deputy convener first, followed by Kevin Stewart, then me.