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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 April 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Douglas, I think that you have a question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Edward Mountain

I just want to chime in and say that I would support such a pilot in the Highlands, if we had enough buses available, but we do not.

As I said at the beginning, I have been looking at these concessionary fare instruments since 2016, and coming as I do from a region where we rely on ferries as much as we do on buses—or the people on the islands do—I am disappointed every year not to see any concessionary fares for people on islands. It is very difficult for us to vote against this instrument, given that it is, I hope, driving us towards our net zero targets, but why, oh why are we not doing more for the island buses—that is, ferries?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Of course, we could do a whole heap of things if we had more money, but sometimes we just need to make sure that the money is equitably split among the people who are using services. Islanders continue to write to me, asking why ferries cannot be viewed as buses are.

As there are no more questions, I ask the minister to sum up and respond to the debate, if he so wishes.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Thank you, Sarah. Over to Kevin Stewart.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Okay. Kevin has given way, which is interesting.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Edward Mountain

Agenda item 2 is consideration of a statutory instrument—the draft National Bus Travel Concession Schemes (Miscellaneous Amendment) (Scotland) Order 2025. The Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee made no comment on the order in its report.

I welcome Jim Fairlie, the Minister for Agriculture and Connectivity, and the Scottish Government officials who are joining us for this item. We have Carole Stewart, head of bus strategy and funding policy; Gary McIntyre, economist for bus, active travel and low-carbon economics; and Bettina Sizeland, director of bus, accessibility and active travel, all from Transport Scotland.

The instrument has been laid under the affirmative procedure, which means that it cannot come into force unless the Parliament approves it. Following the evidence session, the committee will be invited to consider a motion to recommend that the instrument be approved. I remind everyone that the Scottish Government officials may speak under this item, but not under the debate that will follow.

Minister, I think that you are going to make a short opening statement. I say “short” every time in the hope that, one day, it will be. Minister, over to you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Regulation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Edward Mountain

David is itching to come in.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Edward Mountain

In the region that I come from, we see a concessionary scheme that is giving £400 million or so to encourage people to use buses, but neither young people nor older people can use it on ferries. Is this not the moment to extend concessionary travel to those people who use the islands’ buses, which are ferries? Do you not think that there is some inequality there?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Regulation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Edward Mountain

You know every licence that SEPA has ever issued.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Edward Mountain

That delved into my question. Since 2016, there has been a 67 per cent increase in the amount of money that is paid in concessionary fares but only a 13.5 per cent increase in the number of concessionary trips. That is a huge increase in money with very little movement at the other end, is it not, minister?