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Andrew Bradshaw wants to come in on that point.

Towards the end of our earlier evidence session, Tara Lillis talked about the increase in violence in schools and particularly difficult behaviour. Are there students who you refuse to take or currently cannot take because of issues that they have in the classroom? We have spoken about ASN and disabilities, but what about violent pupils?

Yes.

Before we come to Bill Kidd, I want to ask about the EVOLVEvisits system. Why would authorities such as Glasgow and Edinburgh, which clearly have outdoor education, not join that system? Is there a cost implication?

Is its use universal across every local authority in Wales?

But the position would then be different right across the country.

Congratulations, Jackie, and welcome to your new role as deputy convener.

I take this opportunity to thank Evelyn Tweed for everything that she has done as deputy convener of the committee. It is great that you are continuing with us on the committee, Evelyn.

I am sorry, but I think that Andrew Bradshaw wanted to come in on an earlier question.

Thank you. Is there anything that Tara Lillis wants to add?

We have certainly seen reports of violence in the classroom increasing. Are you seeing a similar increase in the numbers that you have to take that decision on or is it such a small number that it is remaining static?