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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 January 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Douglas Ross

We will come on to all those issues in committee members’ questions.

Does Andrew Bradshaw want to say anything about overall provision at the moment and what the bill could achieve?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Douglas Ross

Andrew, in your written submission, you said that the estimated primary school allocation of £300 to £400

“is considered too low to deliver high-quality provision that maximises impact.”

What should the figure be?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Douglas Ross

You also said in your submission that you acknowledge the challenge of modelling and coming up with such figures. It will be difficult to do that, will it not?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Douglas Ross

It is because they have that interest and want to share it with others and their pupils.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Douglas Ross

I thank all of you for your evidence today. Andrew Bradshaw said that he would go back and ask his members some of these questions, and it would be very helpful if he could feed any responses back to the committee. Thank you for your previous submissions and the evidence that you have given us today.

I suspend the meeting until 10:45, when we will resume with our second panel.

10:30 Meeting suspended.  

10:45 On resuming—  

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Douglas Ross

It is not just 50 minutes, though. It involves coaching through the week and speaking to pupils who have an interest in football and getting them involved. That takes several hours, and there will be weekend football matches as well. I do not know any teacher who coaches for just 50 minutes once a week. It is more substantial than that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Douglas Ross

You mentioned negative impacts on the current provision. What are they?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Douglas Ross

I suppose the question that I am asking is: has the number increased?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Douglas Ross

I am referring to the number of pupils that you cannot take for safety reasons.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Douglas Ross

Good. On behalf of the committee, I thank you all for your evidence. Phil Thompson said at the start that we have not heard many voices of young people so far. I think that you have been able to articulate those voices in your testimonies, whether that is through the words of Nevis or with the accounts of what parents and teachers have said. It has been extremely useful to get that on the record, because we will be able to use it in our considerations. We have, however, had a number of submissions from young people to our call for evidence—in fact, a higher number than we have received for most of the other calls for evidence that we have put out. What you have said today matches what we have already heard from young people, who are very impressed with what they receive when they go to outdoor education centres. Thank you very much for your time and your evidence.

12:09 Meeting continued in private until 12:40.