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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 April 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

Professor O’Neill, how does someone one day in the job seemingly know more than you as deputy principal, who had been there for years, and Ms Bey, who had been deputy chair of the court for so long?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

It is alarming that you and the court did not pick up on that, Ms Bey.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

Thank you all for your time today. Moreover, thank you for your patience before you came to the table as witnesses, and for the further information that you will pass on.

We now move into private session.

13:35 Meeting continued in private until 13:45.  

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

Good morning, and welcome to the 10th meeting of the Education, Children and Young People Committee in 2025. We have received apologies from George Adam, Keith Brown and Ross Greer. We welcome Clare Haughey as a substitute member.

The first item on our agenda is to take evidence on the financial situation at the University of Dundee and the impact on staff and students. Our first witnesses are from the university. I welcome Professor Shane O’Neill, interim principal and vice-chancellor; Tricia Bey, acting chair of court; Professor Blair Grubb, vice-principal, education; and Helen Simpson, interim director of finance.

I understand that Professor O’Neill would like to make an opening statement.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

Do you think that we have got rid of the incompetent ones and those who remain are the right people to take the university forward?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

You are saying that the decision was made by the former principal, who has gone, and the former chair, who has gone, but the deputy principal at the time, who is now the interim principal, is still here. Were you aware of the decision at all, when it was made?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

When the Scottish Government announced the top-up funding to take the total to £25 million, it was already in receipt of the recovery plan, which had a request from the University of Dundee for £22 million. That included the loss of 632 full-time equivalent jobs. The Scottish Government knew two things at that point—it knew many things, but there are two main points. It knew that it was giving you more money than had been requested by the university. It also knew that, even if the university got all the money that it wanted, there would still be 632 full-time equivalent jobs lost at the University of Dundee.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

Okay—I just wanted to get that on the record.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

But you were the deputy chair. You could have been forceful and said, “No, let’s look at this again.” That is what the court is for.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

We heard about that earlier.