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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 April 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

So, cabinet secretary, the unique learner number is not subject to a pilot.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

Could it have been done before today?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

When your Government was defeated on 10 September, you did not go away and ask for updated figures.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

But there was nothing to stop you doing it, and perhaps it would be good practice going forward. Could it have been done to allow this discussion to take place with all the available information before members voted? That is all I am asking. Could it have been done?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

With respect, cabinet secretary, you are not answering the question. Do you agree or disagree with the children’s commissioner?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

Going back to the cabinet secretary’s letter, I note that it says that those assessments are

“to systematically analyse, identify and minimise the data protection risks of a project or policy.”

I can speak only for myself, but as a member of this committee, I would like to know whether any data protection risks of a project or policy have been identified in order to allow us to systematically analyse that. That is what it is for, and that is the reassurance that I took from your letter from last month, cabinet secretary.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

Thank you. This is my final question, cabinet secretary. Is there a risk? I ask you to take off your Government hat, go back to the days when you were a member of this committee—although in the governing party—and consider the regulation that we are discussing. Do you accept that people could be concerned that, if we pass the SSI, we will give the Government a get-out clause from the vote on 10 September last year, when the Parliament defeated the Scottish National Party Government on a vote on enacting a policy of universal free school meals for primary 1 to primary 7 pupils? The Parliament agreed to that motion by 64 votes to 60, with two abstentions. Despite the Government lodging an amendment that said that it was still your aspiration to deliver free school meals but that you did not have the funding to do so, it is clear that you were defeated. Therefore, the will of Parliament is for there to be universal free school meals for all primary pupils.

According to your policy note, by passing the SSI, we will

“increase the eligibility for free school meals but which are not as expansive as universal provision”.

By including that line in your policy note, are you giving yourself a get-out clause so that you can ignore the will of Parliament on 10 September last year if the SSI is passed today?

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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

At the moment, the total is 90,000. If the SSI is agreed to, we will decrease the 90,000 by 25,000 to 65,000.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

They do not.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

My final point is about the time that this process has taken, which you mentioned a couple of times to Clare Haughey and George Adam. How long have different Government departments been working on this? What is the total period?