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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 September 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Deputy Convener

Meeting date: 4 September 2025

Clare Adamson

I congratulate Jamie Halcro Johnston and welcome him to his new appointment as deputy convener of the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 September 2025

Clare Adamson

The bill opens up many questions. In Belhaven park, which is a memorial park, the trees were planted by Lord Belhaven at the time of the Napoleonic wars and so were a war memorial in themselves, although not necessarily of the equivalent description.

My area is post-industrial, and I mentioned that I have family members who lost their lives in the first world war. However, my grandfather did not go to war, because he was a steel worker, and we now have a steel workers memorial in my constituency. The miners’ war efforts were the same, and a statue paying tribute to the mining disaster was stolen from Auchengeich. Although I understand that it is a slightly different situation for veterans and their families, would those who contributed to the war effort also be protected by the bill?

10:00  

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Interests

Meeting date: 4 September 2025

Clare Adamson

Good morning. I warmly welcome everyone to the 21st meeting in 2025 of the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee. Our first agenda item is a declaration of interests. As a result of a membership change, we welcome Jamie Halcro Johnston to the committee. We extend our thanks to Alexander Stewart for his contribution to the committee’s work, and we wish him well in his new role. I invite Jamie Halcro Johnston to declare any interests.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Interests

Meeting date: 4 September 2025

Clare Adamson

Thank you.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Deputy Convener

Meeting date: 4 September 2025

Clare Adamson

Under our next agenda item, we must choose a deputy convener. The Parliament has agreed that only members of the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party are eligible for nomination as deputy convener. I understand that Jamie Halcro Johnston is the party’s nominee. Does any member disagree with that nomination?

Members: No.

Jamie Halcro Johnston was chosen as deputy convener.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 September 2025

Clare Adamson

In the examples that you gave, were the police able to secure any prosecutions associated with those incidents?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 September 2025

Clare Adamson

I want to pick up on what I think Neil Bibby was alluding to in his final question. We might talking about a young person who was just misbehaving and who did not really realise the severity of what was happening. I note that your equality impact assessment suggests “a neutral impact” in terms of age. I was just wondering what your thinking was with regard to younger people in such a scenario.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 September 2025

Clare Adamson

That concludes our questions this morning. Thank you for coming to the committee, Ms Gallacher, and thank you to the officials who attended. We will now move into private session.

10:06 Meeting continued in private until 11:26.  

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 September 2025

Clare Adamson

Under our next agenda item, we will take evidence on the Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill. We are joined in the room by Meghan Gallacher MSP, the proposer and member in charge of the bill, and, from the Scottish Parliament, Neil Stewart, a senior clerk in the non-Government bills unit; Sean Taheny, an assistant clerk in the non-Government bills unit; and Kirsty Lauder, a solicitor from legal services.

Before we move to questions from members, I invite Ms Gallacher to make a short opening statement.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Desecration of War Memorials (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 September 2025

Clare Adamson

Thank you. I will reflect on what you have said. Two previous petitions have urged the Scottish Government to introduce legislation that recognises the desecration or vandalism of war memorials as a specific offence. Most recently, the Scottish Government said:

“there is legislation currently in place to deal with the vandalism and desecration of statues and memorials, including war memorials, and the Scottish Government has no current plans to introduce new legislation for the specific purpose requested in the petition.”

Have things changed more recently? Why do you think that now is the time to revisit the issue?