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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 12 December 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 5 December 2024

Clare Adamson

Ben Addy has answered the question to the best of his ability, Mr Kerr.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 5 December 2024

Clare Adamson

Good morning and a warm welcome to the 27th meeting of the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee in 2024. We have received apologies from Keith Brown MSP and his substitute is Jackie Dunbar MSP. Welcome back, Ms Dunbar.

Our first agenda item is a decision on taking business in private. Are members content to take item 3 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 5 December 2024

Clare Adamson

I have a specific question about our recent visit to Brussels to present the first part of our TCA inquiry report on trades and goods. In the discussions that the committee had there, we heard loud and clear that reaching a veterinary agreement would require the UK to align with all EU animal and plant health law. How is the BVA tracking EU law? Have vets based in Scotland been given any advice on how they should keep pace with developments and standards in the EU?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 5 December 2024

Clare Adamson

To be able to work in the EU, the sector would have to align itself with the EU’s AI regulations. We have seen progress there with an EU bill being proposed, but the UK Government is somewhat behind in that regard. How important is alignment of regulation in those larger areas and, indeed, in data and GDPR? How important is it that the IT industry aligns with the EU?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 5 December 2024

Clare Adamson

There would be a difference between the salaries of business leaders and other people in that area of work, such as Mr Addy. We are not talking about profits here, to be clear.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 5 December 2024

Clare Adamson

Mr Addy, you talked about having to fly under the radar with a partner to do work in Europe now, and how that did not used to happen. The committee has heard a lot about how our detriment has been Ireland’s gain, as a lot of companies have registered themselves in Ireland, particularly in service areas where we do not have the same arrangement under the TCA as we have with the trade of goods.

Have you seen Scottish firms losing out to architects from Ireland, who are winning contracts abroad because they have similar advantages to us with regard to speaking English and having those recognised standards?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 5 December 2024

Clare Adamson

Okay, that concludes the committee’s questions. I thank you all for your attendance at the committee this morning, and we will now move into private session.

10:49 Meeting continued in private until 10:57.  

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 5 December 2024

Clare Adamson

Thank you. Can we have the volume of the witnesses up a bit, please? Thank you. This room is a terrible echo chamber sometimes.

I will invite committee members to question the witnesses.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 5 December 2024

Clare Adamson

Our second agenda item is to continue to take evidence on the second phase of our inquiry in relation to the review of the European Union-United Kingdom Trade and Co-operation Agreement, focusing on trade in services. I declare an interest, as I am a member of the British Computer Society.

We are joined by Vivienne Mackinnon, director of veterinary partnerships in the school of veterinary medicine at Scotland’s Rural College and junior vice-president of the Scottish branch of the British Veterinary Association; Dr Joseph Maguire, associate professor in the school of computing science at the University of Glasgow and co-chair of the Scottish computing education committee of BCS, the Chartered Institute for IT; and Ben Addy, managing director of Moxon Architects and member of the Royal Incorporation of Architects in Scotland. Thank you for your attendance.

I will open with a broad question. How has the TCA impacted your sector, in terms of trade in services, and what differences do you see between the situation pre-Brexit and post-Brexit? I will ask Vivienne to start.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Learning Disabilities, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Clare Adamson

Good morning, minister. I am substituting today, so I am new to some of the agenda here. In your opening statement, you talked about the world-leading legislation that has been passed and the gap between ambition and implementation. I have been around for quite a while—I remember the first-ever autism strategy being launched and voting on some of the key pieces of legislation—and I am really concerned that implementation has not met that standard. I would like to find out more about data, how you will measure progress and the accountability mechanisms that will be built into the bill.

The specific example that I know most about, which is in education, is co-ordinated support plans for young people. Those are legislatively underpinned, but what happens on the ground is that people get a plan that is called anything but a co-ordinated support plan, which frustrates the whole process. We know that the Parliament has really struggled with post-legislative review. How will you ensure that the bill achieves the culture change that you are talking about among our delivery services and partners, such as the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities, education services and the national health service?