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As soon as you started talking about volunteers, I reflected on our visit to Orkney, where the message was that everybody wears 10 hats. There was volunteer fatigue and issues with capacity, because it tended to fall on the same people over and over again.

Caroline Warburton, do you want to come in on that?

We will move online to Caroline Warburton.

It is a chicken and egg scenario. Which comes first?

I do not want to stop the discussion on this line of thought, but I want to say that we had a showcase outside the Parliament in which apprentices demonstrated slatework and stonework. Many of my colleagues will have been at that. It was interesting and wonderful to meet so many of the passionate apprentices in those areas.

Can you hear us, Caroline? We have probably lost you for the remainder of our time—I am sorry about that. If you want to give the committee feedback in writing on Ms Forbes’s question, that would be really helpful.

Does anyone else want to come in on that question?

I think that Caroline Warburton’s sound might be working again. Perhaps she would like to pick up on the points that were discussed earlier.

I will just add a supplementary before I bring in people to answer. Our predecessor committee had tourism as part of its remit. We do not have that now, but we still have major events, which fall under the cabinet secretary’s remit, and we also have the Scottish Government’s diaspora strategy, which has been talked about in terms of reach. Could we hear a little about how people are looking to that strategy? I know that the session is on the historic environment strategy, but how are those things being linked up?

I bring in Mark Ruskell. I am sorry—I forgot who was next.

Both Carolines would like to comment. We will go first to Caroline Clark, who is in the room.

I have a final question for Bryan Dickson. In your submission, you said that the strategy was quite vague on metrics to measure success. Could you expand on that? In particular, in our previous work and everything that we are doing as a wellbeing economy, embedding wellbeing into cultural activity has been a theme. Are there also metrics around the wellbeing key performance indicators?