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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 September 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

United Kingdom Internal Market Inquiry

Meeting date: 11 November 2021

Clare Adamson

Good morning, and welcome to the ninth meeting of the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee. We have received apologies from Maurice Golden MSP and Mark Ruskell MSP.

At 11 am today, we will pause for a short act of remembrance, which will take place throughout the Scottish Parliament. At that time, we will observe a two-minute silence.

Our first agenda item is an evidence-taking session for our inquiry into the United Kingdom internal market. The aim of the inquiry is to consider the UK internal market’s implications for Scotland, including how devolution will work, going forward.

In our first panel of witnesses on the topic, we will hear from: Alison Douglas, who is the chief executive of Alcohol Focus Scotland; David Thomson, who is the chief executive of the Food and Drink Federation Scotland; and Vhairi Tollan, who is the advocacy manager for Scottish Environment LINK. I welcome you all and thank you for your submissions.

I remind committee members that, if they wish to direct a question to a particular member of the panel, they should say so at the start of the question. We are constrained by time, so I ask witnesses and my fellow committee members to be succinct, where possible.

All the submissions highlight the risks of the UK internal market and the risk that Governments might be more hesitant to consider innovative policies for tackling particular issues—a deposit return scheme, for example—in order to avoid competitive disadvantage to Scottish businesses. The risk is that there might be lower regulatory standards in order to retain a competitive internal market in the UK. How could we prevent that from happening?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

United Kingdom Internal Market Inquiry

Meeting date: 11 November 2021

Clare Adamson

I am afraid that we are not yet finished. I have a few final questions.

The committee has a specific role to play on this matter, but other subject committees of the Parliament will be able to scrutinise certain areas, too. Going back to our discussion on the interparliamentary forum on Brexit, I should say that we have dropped the reference to Brexit from its title, and I also point out that it will be meeting on 10 December. That was an informal arrangement by different legislatures that came about so that they could work together. Does there need to be a more formal position for such for a at the moment? Does guidance on transparency and scrutiny, certainly for select committees across different areas, needs to be more formalised?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

United Kingdom Internal Market Inquiry

Meeting date: 11 November 2021

Clare Adamson

I am sorry to interrupt but we are going to the two-minute silence. I have another question for you, so if you could stay with us, that would be helpful. We are pausing now for a two-minute silence. I ask members to stand if they are able.

11:02  

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

United Kingdom Internal Market Inquiry

Meeting date: 11 November 2021

Clare Adamson

Thank you. I will bring in Ms Sargeant to comment on those points.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

United Kingdom Internal Market Inquiry

Meeting date: 11 November 2021

Clare Adamson

I have a very quick question on the frameworks. You said quite confidently that they have been developed and are being delivered, but that we will not really understand how they are working until we are further down the line. Does it concern you that what we are hearing that other areas such as the economy and civic Scotland do not feel that they have been included in their development, and they do not feel that there has been transparency in how the frameworks have come about? Whose responsibility is it to inform wider civic society in the UK about the frameworks and the impact that they will have?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

United Kingdom Internal Market Inquiry

Meeting date: 11 November 2021

Clare Adamson

I thank both our witnesses for your attendance at the committee this morning. I close the public part of today’s proceedings.

11:14 Meeting continued in private until 11:17.  

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

United Kingdom Internal Market Inquiry

Meeting date: 11 November 2021

Clare Adamson

Our previous panel represented Alcohol Focus Scotland, the Food and Drink Federation and Scottish Environment LINK. One of the concerns that they raised in their submissions involved dispute resolution. In the context of the frameworks, is it clear to businesses how dispute resolution will take place in the future, and is it clear where the challenges are likely to be? Will they be against the common frameworks or against the legislation itself? Are you able to comment on that?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

United Kingdom Internal Market Inquiry

Meeting date: 11 November 2021

Clare Adamson

Thank you. We will move on to questions from the committee.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

United Kingdom Internal Market Inquiry

Meeting date: 11 November 2021

Clare Adamson

Welcome back. Our second panel will also be giving evidence on the UK internal market. The committee will hear from Michael Clancy, director of law reform at the Law Society of Scotland; and Jess Sargeant, a senior researcher at the Institute for Government. I welcome you both to the meeting. We will move straight to questions from the committee.

I will open with a general question about the impact of the UK internal market and of agreeing to UK common frameworks on the Scottish Government’s commitment to align with EU law. Could we start with Ms Sargeant on that?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

United Kingdom Internal Market Inquiry

Meeting date: 11 November 2021

Clare Adamson

Yes.