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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 July 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Eradicating Child Poverty

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Liz Smith

I completely understand some of that, cabinet secretary. We can debate the politics in the chamber and in other areas of the Parliament although, factually, we have to accept the current circumstances. Based on the statistics that the SFC has published today, let us be honest that there is a big black hole in the amount of money that the Scottish Government is predicted to take in set against its projected spend. Will the Scottish Government pursue progressively higher tax rates to get extra revenue in, or is it open to looking at greater targeting for the policies that we have just been talking about, so that we are not spending quite so much in some areas? Is that the economic crux of the matter? Yesterday, at the Economy and Fair Work Committee, David Phillips spoke about behavioural changes because of changes to the tax policy.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Care Reform (Scotland) Bill: Financial Summary

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Liz Smith

My point is that the principle is one thing, but the workability and the delivery of whatever is going to take place are a different issue. As I understand it, having read the Official Reports of the various committees that were involved at the time, the principle was generally pretty well accepted, but how workable the Government’s proposals were was a completely different issue. That is where the opposition came from.

We started with one bill, which no longer exists, and we now have a second attempt at a bill that is based on what is seen to be more acceptable. Why are you confident that, when it comes to stage 2 amendments and possible stage 3 amendments, the on-going co-design will make the new bill much more acceptable to people?

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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Liz Smith

That was generally accepted to be a perfectly acceptable endeavour.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Liz Smith

Based on the very interesting comments that you have just made, Dr Ireton, do you feel that there is a case for judge-led inquiries, to ensure that there is public trust?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Liz Smith

If evidence that has not been foreseen comes to an inquiry, is it appropriate to change, extend or modify the terms of reference, to allow that evidence to become a critical part of the inquiry?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Liz Smith

Just to be absolutely clear, am I correct in thinking that, if evidence is forthcoming that was not foreseen at the start of the inquiry, it is for the chair to go back to the Scottish Government for any amendment or adjustment to the terms of reference?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Liz Smith

That is why I am asking the question—I was aware of that. In the Inquiries Act 2005, it is clear that there is limited scope for such evidence. As I understand it, not even recommendations can be made to other jurisdictions. Nonetheless, some evidence from foreign jurisdictions might be relevant to a public inquiry. It is just a question of what process can be used to open that up.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Liz Smith

The costs that go alongside that extra work are something that we would find very difficult to control, I presume.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Care Reform (Scotland) Bill: Financial Summary

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Liz Smith

Okay. So, there is the potential for some increase.

I have one final question. In an answer to Michael Marra, you said that you think that the new bill is, in the main, fairly settled. What evidence do you have for that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Liz Smith

I would like to ask two questions, if I may. First, in some situations, the terms of reference of public inquiries have changed—I think that that has happened in three out of 10 inquiries since 2007—and, therefore, there has been a potential for costs to increase. Is it your understanding that those terms of reference changed because the chair of the inquiry found unforeseen evidence that led them somewhere else and, therefore, they had to go back to the Scottish Government to ask for an amendment to the terms of reference?